Unless Labour are involved.Originally Posted by midlander12
Do you remember the 1980s?
In 1987 Fianna Fail and Fine Gael had to come together to prevent Labour doing any more damage to the economy (up until then Fianna Fail had been matching Labour on short-term economy wrecking).
Fine Gael need to stop having to fight on two fronts if they want to become a Party of Government.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
Actually I was going to add that rider, and yes I do remember the 1980's, rather better than I would like. I think even Labour and their trade union windbag friends would probably have to do their duty if the alternative was losing what is left of our self-determination. However the prospect of them in power does make me pause when I wish for a change of govt. Anyway FG can't get a majority on their own.
While I will most probably vote Joan Burton No 1 next time outthe prospect of Labour having a veto over what needs to be done is a matter of some worry to me.
I honestly think the Party is just too ideologue heavy to be able to make the hardball decisions that will have to be made over the next few years...
Was anyone listening to that guy Dan Someoneorother from the Economist Think Tank in London on the Radio this morning over we we having been downgraded once again?
Scary stuff - he seems to think there is a very good chance we will Default.
Have Labour the bottle to do the necessary if they are in power in a few months time?
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Yes - but they will want to protect the vulnerable. Unfortunately, the vulnerable, in Labour's thinking is everyone who depends on state handouts (other than farmers and business) and everyone employed directly by the state.
If engineers were wrong as often as economists, would anyone fly aeroplanes?
Frankly if it takes two or three or four elections this year to purge FF from the system thats worth it. Labour need to come out and say under no circumstances whatsoever, be it economic collapse or a plague of space goats, will they prop up FF. Let em swing...
Yeah, but they won't, and there must be doubts also about their ability to slaughter their own public sector sacred cows.
Has Catalpa the bottle to do the necessary and vote FG in a few months time?
PS - I think Joan Burton would be an excellent Minister for Enerprise and Employment, a position that has only been filled by the best and and the brightest until Mary from DunLowBrow was nominated by the Clowen from Clara.
There are times when you are simply required to be impolite. There are times when condescension is called for!
- Aaron Sorkin writing as President Bartlet to Obama, NYT 21/09/2008
You can't build a smart economy based on dumb decisions.
- Richard Bruton 18/12/2008
There's not a snowballs that we will default.
Don't mind the scaremongerers. We might have to pay a percent or two over the odds in the short-term - as a result of ongoing attacks by elements in London - but this will prove to be minor in the medium term.
Labour won't be on Government this side of 2012, and in the unlikely event of an election this year, they will only be in Government for at most 6 months - the first Richard Bruton Budget will have them screaming blue murder. Courage, vision and sacrifice for the greater good don't exist in the slimeball, whatever you are having yourself, FF-Lite mindset of the Labour Party.Have Labour the bottle to do the necessary if they are in power in a few months time?
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
It isn't possible to "purge FF from the system" - unfortunately. Trying to do so is a wasted effort, and takes time and energy from more productive tasks.
Much better to put resources into purging Labour from the system so that Fine Gael only have to fight a war on one front. When your biggest ally is also your biggest liability you are never going to get anywhere.
Fine Gael need to clean house.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
Ha ha.....
this from the green supporter ...whose lot have sold education and Health out to FF!!
God your great when it comes to everyone else!
Behind every great man is a woman rolling her eyes.
Jim Carrey.
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