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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin Towers View Post
    Hence the confusion as to what Libertas are about. I still don't know yet I'll vote for them and I am anything but federalist.

    Libertas: a super federalist offering that appeals mostly to anti-federalists
    You don't know what their policies are but you'll vote for them anyway?

    What if their policies include the creation of a federal European state?
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    I can see the poster now

    "Libertas.. In Europe because you don't want to be"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mccafferty cat View Post
    Apparently they have circulated a 5 page policy manifesto at their recent launches across Europe. This doesn't seem to be available on their website.
    That's interesting, because according to this article, the launch of their manifesto has been delayed:

    Meanwhile, the launch of Libertas's electoral manifesto, which party founder Declan Ganley told EurActiv "[COLOR=#800080]will lay out our policies in a very wide range of areas[/COLOR]," has been postponed from 25 March to an as-yet-unnamed later date. This event was due to take place in Rome.

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    As far as I can work out he's an extreme right wing nut, that believes in power to the people and trade unions. Low taxes yet spend a lot of money. Hes a bit confused!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mccafferty cat View Post
    Apparently they have circulated a 5 page policy manifesto at their recent launches across Europe. This doesn't seem to be available on their website.
    That's interesting, because according to [COLOR=#0000ff]this article[/COLOR], the launch of their manifesto has been delayed:

    Meanwhile, the launch of Libertas's electoral manifesto, which party founder Declan Ganley told EurActiv "[COLOR=#800080]will lay out our policies in a very wide range of areas[/COLOR]," has been postponed from 25 March to an as-yet-unnamed later date. This event was due to take place in Rome.
    So where are these policies then?

    Certainly not on the Libertas website which still displays the same message:

    Policies

    The Libertas programme for a better Europe will be published on this site in the coming weeks.

    Extract from Ganley's interview with euractiv.com in February:

    You say Libertas is an anti-Lisbon, yet pro-European party. What are your main policy issues apart from opposition to the Lisbon Treaty?

    We're going to be publishing a detailed policy document in March which will lay out our policies in a very wide range of areas. The issue of democracy is not some small thing – it's huge, it's central, it's pivotal.

    That, and this economy: come June, we are facing an economic hurricane across Europe, and people are slowly starting to realise that the very policies and leaders that have got us into this economic mess – which is only going to get worse – are the same leaders who are telling voters that this anti-democratic constitution is something that's good for them.

    Stimulating Europe to be the predominant economic leader in the world, second only to nobody, is not going to come by chucking good money after bad, or flogging the taxpayers until they can't breathe anymore.

    It seems likely that the 'economic hurricane' will overshadow all other issues in this year's European elections. Does Libertas have a specific economic platform?

    Very much so. I wouldn't disagree with you that Lisbon isn't going to be the only issue, but it is going to be big. People may not be worried about Lisbon right now because they don't know what its effects are and what's in it. Only the Irish had a rip-roaring debate on it. The fact is that we exposed the treaty for the abomination that it is.

    But besides Lisbon, what is Libertas's economic platform?

    The leaders of Europe failed to recognise that the engine of job creation and growth, of a new European renaissance, is not banks, but the ability to stimulate people to take a bit of risk, to go out and start more small and medium-sized businesses of their own.

    We have to create an environment where people are prepared and encouraged to take those risks. That's where Europe's economic recovery is going to come from. More medium-sized businesses across Europe will create more new jobs than any other sector in business. It's where innovation and the true genius of European creativity resides. That's where we need to shift our policy focus, and that is something you will hear Libertas talking about in the months to come.

    Let's talk about candidates. The majority of politicians that signed Libertas's pan-European party status application are strongly eurosceptic. Will Libertas candidates follow a similar line?

    I don't think so. I think we'll find – and that's not to take away from those signatories who were very generous to facilitate the democratic process – a very broad-based, moderate block of candidates putting their names forward for Libertas. Some of them will be politicians, many will not be. Many will be people who have well-established track records in other sectors, such as business and academia. Some will be 'young blood': people who have the energy and dynamism to inject real life into Libertas's very demanding agenda.

    Can you name any candidates at this stage?

    No. When we do, it will be with a little more fanfare than in an interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmurr1916 View Post
    That's interesting, because according to this article, the launch of their manifesto has been delayed:

    I think it was a 5 point plan, not a 5 page plan. Its on the Libertas website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    I think it was a 5 point plan, not a 5 page plan. Its on the Libertas website.
    Whatever it is, it doesn't amount to 'a detailed policy document' covering 'policies in a very wide range of areas'.

    Can't find the 25 page replacement for the EU treaties that Ganley has talked about either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmurr1916 View Post
    Whatever it is, it doesn't amount to detailed policies in a wide range of areas.

    Can't find the 25 page replacement for the EU treaties that Ganley has talked about either.
    He made it clear that he wasn't going to write that.

    He won't and can't produce a policy document because

    1. Normal people would be scared off by the off the wall right wing nuttery

    2. The right wing nuts in Libertas would all start fighting over the policies

    3. The eurosceptics wouldn't sign up to the federalism and vice versa.

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