SF and the Euro seat in Dublin

[setanta]

No such thing as taking over Labour MacCoise. The majority of people I know in Sinn Féin are to the left of Labour and any amalgamation in the future would be positive in my opinion.

If you think that being to the Left of Labour means having served as apologists for the iniscriminate slaughter of working people across these islands for no better reason than thier being from a different religion or a different nationality, then I guess you're right.

On the other hand, if you think that working class solidarity is not expressed by terrorist violence and that those who defended it for so long have a very long way to go before their claims to be considered "of the Left" will be believed, then you're wrong.

[The Deise Man]

There's nothing so delightful as watching the SF blind leading the SF blind.

You can dismiss the concerns that real people politically active in the real world have about SF's credibility on security. You can claim that SF's role on the NI executive has any meaningful impact on the perception of SF in the Republic. What you can't dismiss are the decisions the people made when they punished you in the last GE and when they'll remain unconvinced by you in June.

SF accepts that we had a bad election in 07. However listening to you and other Labour hacks you would think ye guys had a great election. You got 9.7% of the national vote, just a third more then SF. SF was at 11% in the latest poll, up on what Labour got in 07. And of course as a truly National Party SF exclipses Labour in terms of votes. I know this may be hard for you to accept but equally these are facts that you cannot dismiss.

I have no difficulty in you having a go at SF but please no not do so while wearing red tinted glasses.

[Eurocitizen]

Sinn Fein have condemned these brutal killings. What more do people like you want.
I believe people like you secretly want more violence and death in the north.

You do your best to try and drag the people who want to get away from it right back in.

You should be encouraging and working with SF and othersto further the cause on integration in the north. Not trying to promote any form of sectarianisim.
Your mentality is rooted in the past and you should have no place in the future of this island that we hope can live in peace.

Trans if you read my comment I clearly stated that Adams needs to be supported and that there should be no political point scoring .
I did not say that it was my personal opinion but it is what people were saying . I support Adams 100% and I if you read my post again you will see I refered to him as a peace maker .

[The Deise Man]

If you think that being to the Left of Labour means having served as apologists for the iniscriminate slaughter of working people across these islands for no better reason than thier being from a different religion or a different nationality, then I guess you're right.

On the other hand, if you think that working class solidarity is not expressed by terrorist violence and that those who defended it for so long have a very long way to go before their claims to be considered "of the Left" will be believed, then you're wrong.

So you disagree with Jack O Connor, Jimmy Kelly and Peter McCloone. I know Labour are looking to distance themselves from the trade unions but this is taking the biscuit.

[Tiernanator]

SF accepts that we had a bad election in 07. However listening to you and other Labour hacks you would think ye guys had a great election. You got 9.7% of the national vote, just a third more then SF. SF was at 11% in the latest poll, up on what Labour got in 07. And of course as a truly National Party SF exclipses Labour in terms of votes. I know this may be hard for you to accept but equally these are facts that you cannot dismiss.

I have no difficulty in you having a go at SF but please no not do so while wearing red tinted glasses.

As a Sinn Féiner and a red I find these debates difficult. All Sinn Féin voters/members should give their preferences to Labour, Greens and left independents. However the same should be reciprocated by them. Just can't get my head around Labour people voting for a conservative party...FG...they are you know.

[Tiernanator]

If you think that being to the Left of Labour means having served as apologists for the iniscriminate slaughter of working people across these islands for no better reason than thier being from a different religion or a different nationality, then I guess you're right.

On the other hand, if you think that working class solidarity is not expressed by terrorist violence and that those who defended it for so long have a very long way to go before their claims to be considered "of the Left" will be believed, then you're wrong.

Get off your high horse Setanta. The british state did it's fair share of slaughtering as well but should we forget that. You would have no problem working with the British Labour party even though during their watch many people died at the hands of British inspired paramilitary death squads. I never supported the violence btw. It is not a new conversion for me. I have always been a republican, a socialist and a pacifist.

[The Deise Man]

As a Sinn Féiner and a red I find these debates difficult. All Sinn Féin voters/members should give their preferences to Labour, Greens and left independents. However the same should be reciprocated by them. Just can't get my head around Labour people voting for a conservative party...FG...they are you know.

I agree, I was merely responding to Setanta's drivel. It is representative of where the Labour Party are at and it is mindboggling. If they committed to a genuine left alternative they could end up as the largest party in the 26 counties. It is their anti-republican, anti-sinn fein hatred that holds them back. For the first time in my life I am considering transferring to Labour precisely becuase I want to see a strong left emerge in Ireland.

[turdsl]

SF accepts that we had a bad election in 07. However listening to you and other Labour hacks you would think ye guys had a great election. You got 9.7% of the national vote, just a third more then SF. SF was at 11% in the latest poll, up on what Labour got in 07. And of course as a truly National Party SF exclipses Labour in terms of votes. I know this may be hard for you to accept but equally these are facts that you cannot dismiss.

I have no difficulty in you having a go at SF but please no not do so while wearing red tinted glasses.

Well they got twice as much as the despicable PDs who ruined the country and if S.F.keep
increasing their first preferences at every election i have not the slightest doubt but there are great days coming

[Tiernanator]

Deise man you should give your second preference to Labour regardless of what people like Setanta says. I live in the north so therefore can't vote but I encourage my relatives to vote Labour. Some don't readily want to do it seeing Labour as anti-republican but the bigger picture matters. It really is about principles above individual grievances or dislikes. Labour is better for the Irish people than FF or FG. So therefore they deserve SF voters/members transfers. I think this is really Labour's greatest opportunity. I just hope they don't allow FG and FF to blow it by getting them to attack potential transfer voters from Sinn Féin. If FF needed SF they would go into government with us in a blink of an eye. Everybody knows this but Bertie played a blinder at the last election and totally outmanouvered the lot of us. Good on Bertie and shame on us all.