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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenny View Post

    Many non-EU immigrants feel that FF are coming down hard on them by upping the rate of deportation. On the other hand Eastern European EU immigrants might feel that FF opened the door for them and they might feel they owe them something.
    Is that a grammatical slip, or do you have a source/reason for saying that ?

    As for East European EU immigrants, I don't think they give a monkey's about Fianna Fáil, or have a concept of owing them anything.

    I doubt if many of them have bothered to register for their vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenny View Post
    I felt that the Shinners were trying to court the immigrant vote during the last general election? Mary Lou was constantly been pictured with African families.

    Many non-EU immigrants feel that FF are coming down hard on them by upping the rate of deportation. On the other hand Eastern European EU immigrants might feel that FF opened the door for them and they might feel they owe them something.

    My gut instinct tells me that immigrants won't block vote, like the 19th century Tammany Hall Irish did, for the simple reason that no party seems particularly pro or against immigration. The subject generally isn't broached at all by politicians.
    But that's only because they are scared ********************less to open their mouths on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    Don't know why my name appears on that Barnaby, it was posted by someone else.

    (added a tag anyway, couldn't think of an African connection for FF in the interest of fairness)
    Apologies 5intheface It was geraghed's response to your post that contained thr Blue Shirt reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    But that's only because they are scared ********************less to open their mouths on the subject.

    Varadkar isn't, although he's a ''special case'' for want of a better term. He probably wouldn't have the guts to say it if he was of straightforward Irish descent.

    McDowell did have the balls. But for numerous other reasons he's not in the frame anymore.

    I agree they're scared ********************less, but it's as much that they made themselves look so silly with their placating misinformation,

    http://www.politics.ie/culture-commu...ml#post1364320

    and don't want it thrown back at them, as any fear they might have of offending the PC brigade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    Would you feel that any of the parties are fielding immigrant candidates for the beneift of the communities from which they come or is it 100% measured to screw votes for themselves wherever they can be found?
    I personally think the reason why parties have chosen immigrant candidates is to get as much of the vote as possible, from areas which are highly populated by immigrants.

    This happens all-the time across the water in the UK: Migrant communities always vote for labour (whom have a huge number of Asian councillors etc) or Lib-Dem, I have yet to see a migrant councillor in the Tory Party.

    So I believe there will be bloc voting

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    Quote Originally Posted by geraghd View Post
    Why do you say that? Is their constituency not by definition their community? How do you make the distinction?
    I'd distinguish a candidates community by their traditions and customs they come from and relate to e.g. Rural upbringing and interested in matters relating to their local economy. I would regard the constituency as the geographic location of where they reside or wish to represent e.g. Dublin-North Central

    I believe that a migrant candidate would likely be more concerned with issues affecting the immigrants where he is running for office, than issues affecting the local irish in the same area........................ vice versa.

    I'm certain there will be block voting of some sort that will happen, because the demographics of an area will affect the outcome of the candidate they wish to have as their representative e.g. Working Class councillors usually are voted from wroking class areas etc.

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