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[Defeated Romanticist]

Oh poor poor DR. He left the PDs as they melted down to join FF, who are now melting down!

Bless.

BTW you know that the PDs and their increase is within the margin of error and so meaningless.

But a 10% drop for FF is an earthquake. It is a drop of almost 1/3rd of their support in the last poll! Jesus.

What 10% drop?

This is pubtalk.

[Myles_per_hour]

Are the PDs not DOWN 1%?

You are correct.

[DeGaulle 2.0]

The basic thing this poll shows is that an election would give a clear FG-Labour majority with 90+ seats - the Greens and SF might win actually win seats but would be in opposition.

There is no incentive for either the Greens or FF to force an election -- we are likely to see them limping along as long as they can

[MookieBaylock]

FF 26 (-10)
FG 33 (+5)
LAB 15 (+5)
GP 6
sf 10
PD 2
oth 8

On these figures, Fine Gael would not even need Labour to from a government..

FG 33 + the 2 PD percentile is 35.. Sinn Fein are on 10.. Greens on 6..

Would change the landscape all right

[Rocky]

The basic thing this poll shows is that an election would give a clear FG-Labour majority with 90+ seats - the Greens and SF might win actually win seats but would be in opposition.

There is no incentive for either the Greens or FF to force an election -- we are likely to see them limping along as long as they can

Unless they believe that if they carry on they will do even worse. Now it's hard to see FF do worse then this, but keep in mind the recession has only just begun and the real pain hasn't even hit yet.

[Myles_per_hour]

The basic thing this poll shows is that an election would give a clear FG-Labour majority with 90+ seats - the Greens and SF might win actually win seats but would be in opposition.

There is no incentive for either the Greens or FF to force an election -- we are likely to see them limping along as long as they can

Remember though that people have just heard about the cuts. They won't experience them until January. That is when the sh1t will really hit the fan. And there is likely to be a mini-budget also even worse than this one. This is just the start. It is like someone with shares seeing their share value plummet and wondering should they cash it in now and suffer a loss, or if by leaving it longer will the loss be even greater?

[Myles_per_hour]

What 10% drop?

This is pubtalk.

Head in the sand again I see! You said the PDs wouldn't lose many seats when everyone knew a collapse was happening. Some things never change.

[Rocky]

On these figures, Fine Gael would not even need Labour to from a government..

FG 33 + the 2 PD percentile is 35.. Sinn Fein are on 10.. Greens on 6..

Would change the landscape all right

No they actually wouldn't. FG/SF/GP would have enough seats. All the same I'd still prefer an FG/Lab government then that one.

[MookieBaylock]

I think we need to keep Labour out.

We can't reform the public sector with them in tow.

[peadarmc]

I think we need to keep Labour out.

We can't reform the public sector with them in tow.

ok but how have any of the parties that have been in government for the last 10 odd years, especially given the prosperities we had, done anything for public reform! do you honeslty think labour could do any worse? if they even scratched their arse with a public sector report, they'll have done more than the current government!