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    Cllrs /Candidates who dont get picked for the FF ticket , but run as ind will do well in this election...

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    The current issue will have absolutely no impact on the locals. At the moment they are going around siding with the people and will claim that it was they who forced the solution and there will be a solution and all the politicians, local and national, will be happy and the voters will go back to party politics. A week is a long time in politics - by June an eternity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Smarter View Post
    The current issue will have absolutely no impact on the locals. At the moment they are going around siding with the people and will claim that it was they who forced the solution and there will be a solution and all the politicians, local and national, will be happy and the voters will go back to party politics. A week is a long time in politics - by June an eternity.

    Dont agree, the public will want to give them a hammering.The real question is whether they will do the same if/when a national election was called.Thats the depressing bit(SIGH)
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    Quote Originally Posted by spidermom View Post
    Dont agree, the public will want to give them a hammering.The real question is whether they will do the same if/when a national election was called.Thats the depressing bit(SIGH)
    I don't like saying it but with Enda Kenny as the only alternative Taoiseach the people will vote to elect Brian Cowen and FF in again.

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    ERGO the SIGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogtrotter View Post
    I think in this case FF made a massive blunder, they decided that the most vunerable in our society, the over 70's and the children would have to suffer and pay for the mistakes of those who made so much money in the Celtic Tiger years. The savings made could have been forced from the banks for bailing them out or a cent or 2 on the top tax rate.

    This will last for a long time in our memories...even if they are forced to back down, we all know that the intention was there...We all remember Ernest Blythe for taking a shilling of the old age pensioners in the 30's and that John (brutal) Bruron tried to tax childrens shoes more recently.....We never thought that FF could stoop so low....We cannot trust such scoundrels to run our country.

    The people will remember this for a long time! I think it is bye bye FF time....
    I agree. This is something else. It's only 100million, but it goes deeper than any tax hike or any spending cut - it's an attack on FF's own core constituency - those who see it as a champion of the underdog and compassionate government, a party that would never act so callously towards the one of the most vulnerable sections of society. This could possibly be a watershed moment.

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    Anyone else think while this whole mess is going on that bertie is smiling wherever he is
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdckelly View Post
    Anyone else think while this whole mess is going on that bertie is smiling wherever he is
    He's down visiting his free gp getting tablets for his amnesia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by codology View Post
    It will be interesting to see how long the publics anger with the government parties last.I would imagine that they could pay a bigger price in the locals than in the europeans as people consider bread and butter issues more in the locals than in general and euro elections.What do posters here think and who could benefit most if there is a large anti gov swing in the locals.
    Well a begger has no choice like the one's we have infront of our post office, at the end of the day he who that digget thy pitts shall fall in it one ways or the other in these world and to some of them they're better than everybody and everybody is out senses but they're alright in terms of speech and meditations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr. Hank Tree View Post
    I agree. This is something else. It's only 100million, but it goes deeper than any tax hike or any spending cut - it's an attack on FF's own core constituency - those who see it as a champion of the underdog and compassionate government, a party that would never act so callously towards the one of the most vulnerable sections of society. This could possibly be a watershed moment.
    I totally agree. To this day people remember FG for taxing childrens shoes and to some extent the same people have never forgiven them. Whether FF do a U turn on medical cards or not the damage is done. This I believe is a watershed moment in Irish politics and particularly for FF. It was an attack their own foot soldiers and they will never be forgiven for it.

    I also believe that the education cuts when they start to bite will cause even further damage to FF.

    Budget 2008 is now perceived as attacking the most vunerable in society, namely Children and the Elderly???

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