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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    If you really believed that abortion is morally equivalent to murder, you would support prosecution of Irish women who have abortions abroad.

    Do you?
    What extra punishment can you give to a mother who has to live with the fact that she killed her own child?
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    Quote Originally Posted by publicrealm View Post
    You just swayed the waverers who were, until your post, considering this well written op.
    ehh, no he didn't, quite the opposite, go on back to the fake news job, at least it gives us a laugh,
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    As a floater, my thoughts today are to vote yes and let women continue to keep their pregnancy and abortion abroad secret until Irish government legislate rationally and Irish people learn to mind their own business, professionally and socially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scolairebocht View Post
    On the whole I think we have enough on our plate as a country in framing and implementing laws for this island, rather than stretching Irish law overseas. Its at least impractical in most cases.
    That's a no, then.

    Do you have the same opinion on the cases of Irish men who travel abroad to engage in child sex tourism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taidhg Gaelach View Post
    What extra punishment can you give to a mother who has to live with the fact that she killed her own child?
    So if a woman were to kill her 10-year-old child, for example, you think she shouldn't face legal sanction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Mayhem View Post
    As a floater, my thoughts today are to vote yes and let women continue to keep their pregnancy and abortion abroad secret until Irish government legislate rationally and Irish people learn to mind their own business, professionally and socially.
    The future population of our land is our business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scolairebocht View Post
    On the whole I think we have enough on our plate as a country in framing and implementing laws for this island, rather than stretching Irish law overseas. Its at least impractical in most cases.
    If you travel to another country to procure FGM for your child, you are liable to prosecution should you return.

    If you travel to another country to sexually abuse a child, you are liable to prosecution should you return.

    If you conspire to commit terrorism in another country, you can be liable to prosecution here.


    Why should we think that prosecuting women who have abortions abroad is not feasible, while we have all of these laws already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    So if a woman were to kill her 10-year-old child, for example, you think she shouldn't face legal sanction?
    What could you do to her? Other than regard her with pity and fear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    If you travel to another country to procure FGM for your child, you are liable to prosecution should you return.

    If you travel to another country to sexually abuse a child, you are liable to prosecution should you return.

    If you conspire to commit terrorism in another country, you can be liable to prosecution here.


    Why should we think that prosecuting women who have abortions abroad is not feasible, while we have all of these laws already?

    Certain Muslims left Ireland in 2011 to commit acts of terrorism against the states of Libya and Syria. Far from being prosecuted when they returned to Ireland, the Dublin media welcomed them as heroes. No need to even mention other "tourists" who went to Egypt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsui2 View Post
    That's a no, then.

    Do you have the same opinion on the cases of Irish men who travel abroad to engage in child sex tourism?
    How many of them are ever prosecuted?
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