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    O'Quisling O'Quisling is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    German parliamentary democracy isn't in crisis though. It really is not. They're in a situation they haven't been in before . . . . . . . .
    I’m sorry, I couldn’t hear what you were saying above the loud echoing whisper on the wind.

    It went something like “. . . . remember the death of Weimar. . . remember the death of Weimar . . . .”
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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Quisling View Post
    I’m sorry, I couldn’t hear what you were saying above the loud echoing whisper on the wind.

    It went something like “. . . . remember the death of Weimar. . . remember the death of Weimar . . . .”
    No, that's not a whisper on the wind. That's the screaming and screeching of the woefully ignorant. Perhaps even of those who consciously or not want to project the dysfunction in their own political systems onto the German system. There's no agreed upon coalition yet. So. What. The German Constitution still provides for what must be done. Other countries have gone through far, far longer periods of time with only a caretaker government and have done just fine. Their democracies were not declared to be in crisis, their democracies did not fall.

    No amount of screeching about German democracy being in crisis will actually make it so. As the president of the Bundestag pointed out: "Es ist eine Bewährungsprobe, aber keine Staatskrise." If you spoke German you could actually see that it's a view essentially reflected in the coverage of the matter.
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    The breakdown of the coalition talks between the CDU, Greens and FDP has clearly damaged the FDP.

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    SPD congress approved talks with CDU/CSU.
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/germ...-idUSL8N1PC1W5

    Be interesting to see outcome of Sunday's vote.
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    We should know the results of the SPD coalition talks vote in a few minutes. It was too close by show of hands and so has gone to a ballot.
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    This is in Spanish and is saying that the delegates have voted in favour.

    https://twitter.com/belenpalancar/st...00404018237441
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wascurito View Post
    This is in Spanish and is saying that the delegates have voted in favour.

    https://twitter.com/belenpalancar/st...00404018237441
    There are several tweets now in several languages saying that the SPD has voted for coalition talks with Merkel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wascurito View Post
    There are several tweets now in several languages saying that the SPD has voted for coalition talks with Merkel.
    And which is the largest opposition party now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    And which is the largest opposition party now?
    Yes but the elites changed the rules to remove the Official Opposition from committee chairmanships.
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