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    Lain2016 Lain2016 is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParliamentBend View Post
    Fine Gael 32(-1)
    Labour 10(-3)
    Fianna Fail 17(+3)
    Sinn Fein 24(+3)
    Greens 2(-)
    Ind 15(-2)


    Very respectable showing for FF, down but definitely not out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limerick Lad View Post
    This weekend's RedC/SBP poll tells another story, these are just opinion polls all using different methodologies, you pay your money and pick the one that suits you.

    FG 30% (+1)
    SF 19% (-2)
    FF 18% (-1)
    Lab 15% (+2)
    Others 18%
    But surley the irish Times poll would be better than the others?
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    How long will Labour be able for the heat, especially if he keeps telling us what a great leader James Connolly was. Maybe, the new right wing Labour can take it.
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    What is your comparison poll showing SF at -2? I assume it must be a SBP poll, because you can only compare like with like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DuineEile View Post
    What is your comparison poll showing SF at -2? I assume it must be a SBP poll, because you can only compare like with like.


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    Right my head is spinning with all these polls. Way too many over such a short space of time.

    However I do notice a fair difference between them.
    With regards to FG, Redc/SBP has them at 30%, The IT poll has them at 32% and the Sindo has them (although buried underneath their rightous anger) at 36%. Quite a disparity for polls taken at the same time.

    FG will be happy with them though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by turdsl View Post
    Looks like the Shinners will be leaving Kerry in a very positive mood indeed. The indications are that the move by Mr Adams into Southern politics has risen the party profile. The poll also making Mr Adams the most popular leader, will certainly worry those who say he should retire, It will take an election to prove the point but running McGuinness in the presidential was also a wise move by the leadership,
    Watch the muck raking start once the treaty stuff is over.

    SF have been ignored and given a free reign of it thus far.

    Of course, if there is a No vote, FG and Lab should go to the country, let SF and the ULA take charge and complete the descent into Greece. Minority govt enabled by mass absenteeism by FG/LAB and FF tds.

    This, rest assured, once the general strike crippled the country, and a GE followed, would ensure a return to normal running.

    Watching a SF minister try to be effective in Justice and Defense would be particularly inter sting. Ditto Finance..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lain2016 View Post
    Very respectable showing for FF, down but definitely not out
    Absolutely. SF have to put a few more percentage points between themselves and FF or face the prospect of FF outpolling them in an actual election, given the tendency for so many SF supporters not to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turdsl View Post
    How long will Labour be able for the heat, especially if he keeps telling us what a great leader James Connolly was. Maybe, the new right wing Labour can take it.
    They will take it for quite a while yet. At least until the locals and euros - if as is likely they suffer major reverses in those elections then the pressure will really begin to tell. However most of the old timers (Rabbitte, Burton, Howlin Gilmore, Shorthall, Quinn etc.) have waited too long in opposition to cut and run easily.

    If they suffer big losses in 2014 and take the brunt while FG don't suffer as much they may leave and use the excuse of the abject failure of government policies to have any impact on the crisis.

    I think the next few years will be very interesting with potential splits in Lab, FG and FF and new right and left formations all potentially on the cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill Bill View Post
    However most of the old timers (Rabbitte, Burton, Howlin Gilmore, Shorthall, Quinn etc.) have waited too long in opposition to cut and run easily..
    In other there are 4 more years to be had at the trough before they are wiped out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrightDay View Post
    FF and SF combined are still not strong enough to beat FG and Labour combined - is it possible that the young Healy Rae will hold the balance of power in the future. Did someone mention cronyism?

    It is good to see that the pre-election Labour spin and the "Im-so-much-better-than-all-of-you" attitude of Eamon Gilmore is being rewarded with a significant drop in support. Great. I imagine that the mandatory Labour implosion is not too far away.

    I wonder has secret cover operation Phil Hogan helped FG - can you imagine all the schemes and idea he will unleash on us next week when the Fiscal Treaty Referendum is over. It amazes me that the opposition are not asking where he is and why is he being kept under wraps by the Government.

    the government are 14 months in situ , by 1915 or whenever the election is fine gael will be twice as unpopular as fianna fail were last time , we may have some sort fine gael /ff unstable coalition and be like the greeks voting every month
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