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Thread: Remember this: That Five Point Plan? Where is it now 12 months on?

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    Remember this: That Five Point Plan? Where is it now 12 months on?

    http://www.finegael2011.com/pdf/5%20...hure%20WEB.pdf

    Here's a section from the infamous Fine Gael Five Point Plan. It will make you laugh or weep!

    "Fine Gael believes that the current IMF/EU bail-out deal has not and will not restore investor confidence
    in our country and must therefore be renegotiated. It requires Ireland to continue with the present
    Government’s disastrous banking policy whereby the Irish people are required to write whatever cheques the
    banks require. This strategy has placed an intolerable burden on the Irish people, allows international investors
    in the banks to evade their responsibilities, and threatens to drive our nation to the edge of insolvency.
    The deal in our view is not just bad for Ireland – it is also bad for Europe"


    12 months on and it reads like a very badly written fairy-tale. And one that many people believed.
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    Isn't 5 point plans all the rage? Blairs New Labour had it....Obama will be looking to borrow it in October.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wee slabber View Post
    http://www.finegael2011.com/pdf/5%20...hure%20WEB.pdf

    Here's a section from the infamous Fine Gael Five Point Plan. It will make you laugh or weep!

    "Fine Gael believes that the current IMF/EU bail-out deal has not and will not restore investor confidence
    in our country and must therefore be renegotiated. It requires Ireland to continue with the present
    Government’s disastrous banking policy whereby the Irish people are required to write whatever cheques the
    banks require. This strategy has placed an intolerable burden on the Irish people, allows international investors
    in the banks to evade their responsibilities, and threatens to drive our nation to the edge of insolvency.
    The deal in our view is not just bad for Ireland – it is also bad for Europe"


    12 months on and it reads like a very badly written fairy-tale. And one that many people believed.
    The troika have been using all remaining copies of it as coasters?

    The inconvenient fact is that any party manifesto is A) a set of promises designed to get the party elected, not to be implemented and B) only even slightly likely to be implemented if that party forms a one-party administration. What's more, I'm actually of the opinion that the electorate is, for the most part, clever enough to know that this is the case.

    So the document that needs to be compared with actual performance is not the plan, or the Lab manifesto, but the programme for government. Not that it's doing all that well, either.
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    People will NEVER vote for those who will tell them the truth.
    They want to be told about easy ways out, about the paradise around the corner and free icecream for everybody.
    Making up stories to suit enough voters is the only way to get into government.
    No way around this- a sad fact.
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    It will be back one day, perhaps just before the next election.


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    Not sure what your point is here.

    Is it that FG completely overstated what was achievable in terms of the bank debt? Most objective commentators would agree, but I doubt that's where you're coming from seeing as you're a SF supporter.

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    We could read it to our kids at night. "But Daddy Enda's not wearing any clothes"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimpanzee View Post
    Not sure what your point is here.

    Is it that FG completely overstated what was achievable in terms of the bank debt? Most objective commentators would agree, but I doubt that's where you're coming from seeing as you're a SF supporter.

    objective is something you certainly are not , overstated = lies , to call it anything else makes you a liar

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    Ah, yes. I remember. Glad that we have people like this in government to sort out the bondholders.......



    FG are not getting another vote. Not another vote.....
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