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    All this stuff going on and STILL NO NEW POLITICAL PARTIES? WTF?

    You know, I thought that a crises would encourage more people into politics, but as far as I can see, IT DID ANYTHING BUT THAT. The adults I know(well, the ones over 30, that is) STILL would not consider voting for anyone else, for reasons such as "What's the point in voting for anyone else? They'll never get into power", etc. That sort of thing is a self-fulfilling prophecy: OF COURSE if you don't vote for anyone other than FF/FG, no one else will get into power! Isn't this kinda MEANT to be the point of democracy? That we can replace the eejits in power with people that can do something? But so far, unless you count the electoral union between a few tiny socialist parties(AKA, The ULA), THERE HAS BEING NO NEW PARTIES! Even though we complain constantly about those in power, even though a lot of people feel that none of the parties support their views, there still have being no new political parties. I mean, What's the point of democracy here, if we aren't going to try and get change when we want it?


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    Irish Democratic Party about to release a platform policy very soon and will begin recruiting members. Looks promising!
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    It started a couple years ago and wained off but from all accounts is serging back to life this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Irish Democratic Party about to release a platform policy very soon and will begin recruiting members. Looks promising!
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    It started a couple years ago and wained off but from all accounts is serging back to life this year.
    Lightweight - would appear to be little more than the equivalent of a residents association.

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    All this stuff going on and STILL NO NEW POLITICAL PARTIES? WTF?
    Because any new party would just do the same old s hit !

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    Part of the trouble might be that the last two new parties The Progressive Democrats and The Green Party turned out to be worse than anything previously encountered.
    Who can forget the appalling Mary Harney who was allowed to hang on and on as Health minister while she created a two tier system and made it worse in every way long after the PDs themselves had disappeared. And the sanctimonious and joyless Green Party, with Eamonn Ryan and his ilk! It doesn't encourage voters to try new parties.
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    I'm sure some McDowell or Shane Ross types will get together and launch a new right wing neo-liberal party. It will differentiate itself from Fine Gael by being against paying unsecured bondholders, being massively anti public sector and tax increases, being harder on immigration and more friendly towards the gays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacBeth View Post
    I'm sure some McDowell or Shane Ross types will get together and launch a new right wing neo-liberal party. It will differentiate itself from Fine Gael by being against paying unsecured bondholders, being massively anti public sector and tax increases, being harder on immigration and more friendly towards the gays.
    Nothing wrong with that. Something like the British conservative party would be nice. The country is full of these left wing feel sorry for ourselves party.
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    I would be interested in a Libertarian style party.Not fully libertarian but close to it.

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    I don't think we have the talent- the kinds of people who would make effective politicians are not generally the kinds of people who are electable.
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    The views of the vast majority of Irish people are "we want to go back to the heights of the Celtic Tiger!!!!!! At no cost to me!!!!! Fraaaaaarrrrrrgh"

    If you want to create a new party and represent these views, what's stopping you? In the meantime, the existing parties have to deal with reality and all the tough decisions that need to be made.

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