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Thread: Sein Fein and Fianna Fail a Credible Coaltion Government

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    Quote Originally Posted by AynRand View Post
    Its way overcooked by SF. FF in the only elections since the national elections they finished 2nd and 2nd. Come on admit it they are doing way better than you like or will admit. They are resurgent.
    How can a party be resurgent when they have received a major kicking in the General Election, are potless in the capital, are financially screwed, stuck with a leader who is crippled by association and had a candidate who was leading in the polls days before the election have his legs taken by the electorate because of the exposure of links to that party?

    'Resurgent'? They aren't even 'detergent'.
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    What now for Dragon - return to that gig, celebrity Bainisteoir or what. Will he still protest his innocence with FF, and stay on the fringes in the long grass ?
    And dont forget Fergal Quinn's quip - "he has a lovely wife"

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Saltees Eagle View Post
    The previous 'main' parties are disturbed by SF's progress. 'AynRand' there suggests that SF didn't do so well in the Presidential election- for them to take third place and finish ahead of what was an admittedly desperately poor choice of candidate in Fine Gael's official effort, absolutely finish miles ahead of a proxy FF candidate in Davis and in the end Sinn Fein did play a signal part in the Presidential election with McGuinness's destruction of the overt FF candidate at the last debate.
    If it is "destruction" for a candidate to get twice as many votes as your party's candidate, then I think many parties would accept "destruction".

    Your attempt to claim that Martin McGuinness beat Sean Gallagher because he out-argued him and routed his campaign is like an attempt to claim that Michael McDowell beat Gerry Adams in 2007 because he out-argued him and routed his campaign. In each case, it did feck all good for the alleged "winner".

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    He who wields the knife does not always benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonic View Post
    At the moment I wouldn't touch SF with a barge pole. Give them 20 or 30 years and we’ll see, in the meantime let them show some commitment to true democracy and not just to the pursuit of power.
    The irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruthsback View Post
    Ok before it's sent to the zoo don't be too hasty. Is it possible that both Parties could find some common ground? Firstly, is Mehole moving Fianna Fail to a more anti-European position, similar to SF's position. Last week, Mick McGrath criticised Micheal Noonan for not succeeding in getting a write down on Irish debt, something a kin to SF's position. Of course both Parties have a recent past that is unsavory but the Republican ideals shared by both parties do come from the same gene pool. Maybe, it's an impossible dream as both parties are fishing in the same pond.
    Loads of common ground. Complete and utter populist BS nonsense and spin with no real solutions at all. So I'd have to say yeah, it just might work with the Irish electorate. As long as we dont really have an effective media, just a media extension of the tribalism that exists in politics its entirely possible they could do well. But it would be very sad for the country.

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