Will Ireland's Left exploit Michael D's victory?

[Big Brother]

Labour have an agenda - legalising abortion, changeing the constitutional status of the family, secularising education - that a majority of this country do not support.

Using - or misusing - scandals arising from the outrageous crimes of a minority of clergy the media - which shares the left's hatred of the church and all things traditional in terms of social policy at least - has been busy misdirecting righteous public anger over abuse towards creating public support for *liberal* causes. Their logic is perverse: Because a minority of clergy abused and because some bishops turned a blind eye, therefore everything the church stands for is wrong (they don't apply their logic to the church's leftish stance on the economy of course, but then double standards are typical here).

The point is: Now that an atheist/agnostic has become President, will the left - using the Irish Times and RTE which they control - now exploit that to claim a popular mandate that doesn't really exist?

In a reply to Tommy O'Brien I've already conclusively shown that Michael D Higgin's victory has nothing to do with a liberal tide, but is a personal vote much of which is elderly and socially conservative.

But I wouldn't put it past Labour and the left generally to interpret the Presidential election and by-election as vindications

As for parties that ought to be given healthy representation to center right views, FF is discredited by over a decade of incompetence and FG is too weak, pragmatic and cynical to do anything that might annoy the media.

Put simply, the majority of Middle Ireland is now helpless against an onslaught from the left, which now controls - or thinks it controls - the Presidency, the media, the AG's office and the office of Chief Justice, and which - through a pliant FG party - has an effective and huge majority in the Dail.

[antiestablishmentarian]

Zoo for this methinks, it's pure paranoia, the 'Left' is not in a position to implement any of those things, and it is Fine Gael dictating how policy will go to Labour, not vice versa. Btw, when did the LP or Michael D say they were going to do any of those thing?

[Vote_No_on_Everything]

_ So long as Labor in government are still shovelling tax payers money into the banks,the golden circle and Nama then Labor are not 'The Left'

[lostexpectation]

michael d is neither atheist or agnostic he's a god botherer

[TheYouthVote]

What bullcrap; ''changing the constitutional status of the family'' to what exactly? All nonsense.

[BeyondPunchandJudy]

Welcome, Glenn Beck. Is it hot under that tinfoil hat?

What "Left" party cuts special needs assistants? What "Left" party postpones a referendum on children's rights to have one on giving the Dáil quasi-fascistic powers of investigation? What "Left" party describes poverty as a lifestyle choice?

Are you paid to spam forums with that spurious, incoherent garbage?

[Mervyn Crawford]

Labour in Dublin; Sinn Fein in Belfast - both are cutting public spending on behalf of the banks and the billionaires.

The 'protest left' of the Socialist Party and the SWP meanwhile attempt to tie those who are moving into opposition to the capitalist state to the trade union and parlaiamentary apparatus.

However one looks at it: in the final analysis it is the working class and social spending which are hit by the crisis measures, while the banks can rely on support from public funds. The recent EU summit marks just another phase of the redistribution of income and wealth from the bottom of society to the top.

There is, however, growing opposition. But this opposition needs a political program. It must consciously break with the trade unions, social democracy and their pseudo-left supporters, which subordinate working people to the national interests of their respective ruling classes.

"Brussels summit intensifies national conflicts in Europe" World Socialist Web Site

[grizzley]

Labour have an agenda

Put simply, the majority of Middle Ireland is now helpless against an onslaught from the left, which now controls - or thinks it controls - the Presidency, the media, the AG's office and the office of Chief Justice, and which - through a pliant FG party - has an effective and huge majority in the Dail.

well said Sir!

[tigerben]

Michael D is only there because he was deemed to be the best of a poor lot, in a few weeks after the sworn in ceremony is done with, the role will be invisible, a old man shuffling down the steps of a plane or house will not be the image of a country that we need, in which we are told had the youngest population in Europe! Eamon Gilmore will bore us of the fact alright, but then who listens to him!

[Kill Bill]

Labour have an agenda - legalising abortion, changeing the constitutional status of the family, secularising education - that a majority of this country do not support.

Using - or misusing - scandals arising from the outrageous crimes of a minority of clergy the media - which shares the left's hatred of the church and all things traditional in terms of social policy at least - has been busy misdirecting righteous public anger over abuse towards creating public support for *liberal* causes. Their logic is perverse: Because a minority of clergy abused and because some bishops turned a blind eye, therefore everything the church stands for is wrong (they don't apply their logic to the church's leftish stance on the economy of course, but then double standards are typical here).

The point is: Now that an atheist/agnostic has become President, will the left - using the Irish Times and RTE which they control - now exploit that to claim a popular mandate that doesn't really exist?

In a reply to Tommy O'Brien I've already conclusively shown that Michael D Higgin's victory has nothing to do with a liberal tide, but is a personal vote much of which is elderly and socially conservative.

But I wouldn't put it past Labour and the left generally to interpret the Presidential election and by-election as vindications

As for parties that ought to be given healthy representation to center right views, FF is discredited by over a decade of incompetence and FG is too weak, pragmatic and cynical to do anything that might annoy the media.

Put simply, the majority of Middle Ireland is now helpless against an onslaught from the left, which now controls - or thinks it controls - the Presidency, the media, the AG's office and the office of Chief Justice, and which - through a pliant FG party - has an effective and huge majority in the Dail.

What a nonsense post.

Firstly there is NOTHING radical or left about the Labour Party. Higgins ceased to be any way radical over 20 years ago. He capitualted with the rest of the so called Labour left to Springs leadership and has never looked back.

The idea that Labour would grab hold of a single radical idea and pursue it is laughable.

It is almost twenty years since the X case and not a sign of legislation, Labour made a play out of free fess for education yet we know they will be re-introduced by this gov either by the front door or the back door. Just like in 1992 when Labour introduced water charges while supporting a tax amnesty for the rich they are now helping to bring in more stealth taxes while a there is no sign of a wealth tax . ALL LEFT WING STUFF HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Higgins is not atheist nor agnostic - in fact when confronted by Dana on the issue of secularism in one of the debates his response was pathetic. The great radical MDH bowing to a right wing christian fundamentalist nut on the issue of religion - I'd say the church are quaking in their boots.

In relation to the media - what planet are you on - the IT has just had an ex PD TD as their editor. Have you read their coverage of the economy - I mean Dan O Brien is just screaming for no cut backs and bank nationalisations and re-distribution of wealth every time I read his column! RTE have George Lee (fine Gael) as one of their main correspondents - John Murray is an ex PD - and of course Mary Wilson, Pat Kenny, Rachel English (FF), Miriam O Callaghan (FF), Ryan Tubridy (FF) et al are all well known radical socialists

Seriously enough with the paranoia and try to make some logic when your posting