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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyessus View Post
    Gallagher never denied his actual actions.
    This is getting tiresome, and pretty soon these threads will turn into so much internet junk. This is all after the event. The voters are not so stupid that they made a mistake here. They looked at Gallagher, and rejected him. And ... does it need stating again that there was a substantial difference in how Gallagher presented himself: 'independent', 'foot-soldier', 'ordinary guy outside politics' 'fresh approach' etc. etc. ... and the version of the candidate that McGuinness, Lynch, Dobson managed to elicit by questioning him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airport Spider View Post
    This is getting tiresome, and pretty soon these threads will turn into so much internet junk. This is all after the event. The voters are not so stupid that they made a mistake here. They looked at Gallagher, and rejected him. And ... does it need stating again that there was a substantial difference in how Gallagher presented himself: 'independent', 'foot-soldier', 'ordinary guy outside politics' 'fresh approach' etc. etc. ... and the version of the candidate that McGuinness, Lynch, Dobson managed to elicit by questioning him?
    I agree it's all beside the point now, but if it is proven that Gallagher told the truth all the time, I wonder how many voters will think they were stampeded away from him by smear tactics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyessus View Post
    I agree it's all beside the point now, but if it is proven that Gallagher told the truth all the time, I wonder how many voters will think they were stampeded away from him by smear tactics?
    Come on. How many truths are there. The contradictions came from his own mouth.
    Sean Gallagher tries to limit damage, dodges questions - Presidential Election, National News - Independent.ie

    'Mr Gallagher's version of events relating to the Fianna Fail fundraiser in Co Louth in 2008 changed substantially from the original explanation he provided a week ago when the Irish Independent revealed he attended and helped organise the corporate fundraiser.

    Originally he said he invited a couple of people he knew to the event but he now admits he invited people he didn't know to the fundraiser and he did ask them to donate up to €5,000 ... Last week, Mr Gallagher said he only contacted a small number of people he knew and repeatedly insisted he did not ask them for money for Fianna Fail. "At no point did he actively solicit any donations. He would have been in touch with a number of people he knew to tell them it was on," his spokesman said.

    And Mr Gallagher said a day later: "And even of those who turned up, I have no idea whether they made a donation or not. That would be solely a matter for Fianna Fail."

    But he now admits he contacted a businessman he didn't know and told those he invited to make a donation of up to €5,000'. - from the Indo
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    And using the same logic lack of experience and competence cost Ireland its economic independence.
    FF are a shower of spoofing bollixes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpc View Post
    And using the same logic lack of experience and competence cost Ireland its economic independence.
    FF are a shower of spoofing bollixes.
    Amen sister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Indeed and that's the point that Whelan is making. A more experienced person would have been able to return those questions with interest.
    In other words, a more experienced eFFer would have been able to respond to McGuinness with counter accusations thus evading the truth with interest.
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    "Lack of Experience cost Gallaher the election"

    No, lack of votes cost Gallagher the election. Not enough people voted for him after MMG exposed him for what he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Owl View Post
    In other words, a more experienced eFFer would have been able to respond to McGuinness with counter accusations thus evading the truth with interest.
    Exactly
    Untruth!
    Halftruth!
    Anything but the truth!.
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