Seanad Electorate - latest state of parties

[Daonphobal]

I make it as follows:

FF 415 votes
FG 341
Labour 126
Sinn Fein 57
Unqualified Independents 41 (I mean ones I can't link to a party genepool)
PD 26
Independent Socialist 25
Green Party 24
Independent FF Genepool 17
Independent FG Genepool 12
Socialist Party 5
Independent Green Genepool 1
Independent SF Genepool 2
Workers Party 2
Roscommon Health Action Committee 2
South Kerry Independent Alliance (SKIA) 1
Independent PD Genepool 2

So the results and possibilities for alliances should be figurable.

Errors and Omissions Excluded - I have done my best and used my judgement best on this.

[rockofcashel]

where did you get the SF genepool figure from ? plus the voting SF contingent should be 58 (54 cllrs and 4 TD's.. unless Udarás members and MEPs can vote, bringing SF up to 60)

[Meursault]

You can put the SKIA cllr into Labour gene pool/Indie Socialists.

who are the two Ind Green gene pool cllrs?

[Meursault]

ROC it would be 5 SF TD's as it's ex Dail rather then former Dail members that are counted.

[rockofcashel]

ahh. very good

[Meursault]

Of course that should read outgoing rather than incoming.

[GJG]

ROC it would be 5 SF TD's as it's ex Dail rather then former Dail members that are counted.

Incorrect, I think. Outgoing senators and incoming TDs have a vote as I remember. Also council co-options have an effect on this, where sitting councillors have been elected to the Dáil, they will have only one vote, but the party can get another one if they get their co-option in fast enough.

[Robert A Taft]

An as yet unmentioned variable is the ability of parties, particularly smaller parties, to have candidates nominated. There are two mechanisms that can be used.

Firstly, a candidate can be nominated by four members of the incoming Dàil or outgoing Seanad. But a member can only nominate once. (This, for example, means the Sinn Fèin with 4 TDs can only nominate a single candidate for a single panel).

Secondly, a candidate can be nominated by a registered nominating body. (E.g. ASTI can nominate for the Cultural & Educational Panel or ICTU can nominate for the Labour Panel).

Each panel will furthermore have two sub-panels (one consisting of candidates nominated by oireachtas members & one consisting of candidates nominated by registered nominating bodies) there are minimum numbers from each sub-panel that must be elected which means that in theory a candidate that may be elected in a straightforward PR-STV election might not be by virtue of the sub-panel he/she is a member of.

[locke]

Last time out, the quotas were

Administrative Panel: 120
Agricultural Panel: 80
Cultural and Educational: 160
Industrial and Commercial: 96
Labour: 80


I assume these haven't changed. Aside from 2 MEPs down, the electorate should be the same.

[Daonphobal]

Last time out, the quotas were

Administrative Panel: 120
Agricultural Panel: 80
Cultural and Educational: 160
Industrial and Commercial: 96
Labour: 80


I assume these haven't changed. Aside from 2 MEPs down, the electorate should be the same.

Quotas are up considerably, because of the abolition of the dual mandate. Dual mandated cllrs only had one vote in the old system.