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    Who are the left wing/ring wing parties of Ireland???

    Who are the left wing/ring wing parties of Ireland???

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    Totally obsolete terms. Right and Left are terms of convience rather than accuracy.
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    May or may not be accurate, but this graph may be of some interest:

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelach
    Totally obsolete terms. Right and Left are terms of convience rather than accuracy.
    This is not true. Right and Left are as relevant as ever. The parties of the right have maintained power since the foundation of the state by masquerading as being on the centre ground and sometimes by pretending to be Left (eh, I'm a socialist - Bertie).

    The parties in my view are bunched as follows:-

    Ultra Right - none of note (Christian Solidarity Party?)
    Far Right quasi liberal: the PDs
    Right Wing populist: Fianna Fail
    Right wing christian democract: Fine Gael
    Centrist/populist: Labour
    Left wing: Socialist Party, Workers Party, SWP
    Populist nationalist: Sinn Fein

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuchToDo
    May or may not be accurate, but this graph may be of some interest:

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/ireland
    Thank-you... very interesting!

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    The terms are obsolete in Ireland. The main stream of politics, including most of the small parties are very much centre. FF, FG, Labour, PD, Greens

    SF lean to the left more, but are increasingly slipping into the centre as that's what people will find acceptable to vote for.

    Socialist party, Workers Party, SWP - Left, but so small they're insignificant anyway.

    Ireland doesn't really have Left V Right politics at all, it's more a concept that you find in 2-party systems than in multi-party democracies where consensus politics tends to rule the roost.

    You'd struggle to find a more centre country anywhere on the planet!

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    The SP was far from insignificant for the workers in GAMA, for those opposed to water charges and bin charges, for workers in Aer Lingus opposing privatisation, for residents forced to pay management fees. I could go on but whats the point - we're insignificant

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    Quote Originally Posted by solair
    Socialist party, Workers Party, SWP - Left, but so small they're insignificant anyway.
    That's a joke coming from a PD - you could be joining the group very soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doheochai
    The SP was far from insignificant for the workers in GAMA, for those opposed to water charges and bin charges, for workers in Aer Lingus opposing privatisation, for residents forced to pay management fees. I could go on but whats the point - we're insignificant
    Can i put this to you. SP are very good at fighting AGAINST things but they never seem to be fighting FOR anything. Could you enlighten me as to what policy proposals they have that are not re-actionary. And don't say they are FOR workers. Only 4.5% of the population are not workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Podolski

    That's a joke coming from a PD - you could be joining the group very soon!
    Yeah, they could be joining that group soon.

    I am *not* a PD !!!!!!


    I was just saying that they're relatively centre oriented, just centre neo-liberal.

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