Who voted FF in 2007 election.

[Tomas Mor]

Most people thought that there was trouble on the horizon, but sure FF were the best to see us through- they have a direct line to the men with money, bankers and builders.

[deiseguy]

What are these? It's not a trick question. I seriously want to know what FF could claim to be "core principles". For many, including myself, this is a party that has corruption woven into the fabric of its DNA.

So, the core principles. What are they?

+1000 You beat me to the punch a more unprincipled bunch there never was? They corrupt everything they touch.

[flavirostris]

I was talking about the joe duffy type callers who are moaning about big bad FF. He should ask them straight out, did you vote for them last time out.

The ones doing the most whining are more than likely serial FF-voters and also the most likely to turn on a new government. Fast forward a couple of years and they will be belly-aching to Joe about Fine Gael and Labour who "are beginning to make the last crowd look great altogether"
These people are FF's friends

[west'sawake]

Never, never, never. I have recognized them for what they are from the start of my voting career. I'm damn proud of that. Nor have I ever voted for the PDs.

The past though is the past but there is no excuse anymore for anyone to support FF. That over 20% still do is a mark of just how messed up this country is.

To support FF now means that you either are corrupt, are approving of corruption, a gombeen, brain-dead, or a FF TD interested only in its own survival.

I come from a family where me Da is an out and out FFer, as was his Da,, and me ma is soft FF. At one stage there were 12 FF votes in our house.

I was also an office holder in the FF UCG cumman in the 80s, and a party member up to 2000 when I resigned from the party in protest at tax individualisation, and what I saw as the undoing of the MacSharry Dukes legacy, as well as disillusionment re corruption as in the Beef Tribunal, the Haughey legacy, among other things. I have voted FG ever since, but I am not a natural or enthusiastic FG supporter but simply want to punish FF for wasting the boom and leading us again, to near bankruptcy, despite their many fine achievements; and hand on heart I have great time for the average humble FF man or woman whose loyalty has been utterly betrayed, members who are rarely up their own arses. I like Lenihan, despite his mistakes, easy to have wisdom with hindsight, and I admire greatly Senator Jim Walsh.

Pleased to say I didn't vote for FF in 2002 or 2007 but I would consider returning to them if FG Labour make a mess of things and Lenihan is leading and in good health.

Never trusted or liked the P.Ds.,or Labour (except for Ruairi Quinn).

[dresden8]

I like Lenihan, despite his mistakes,

Mistakes, the destruction of the Republic?

[florin]

Proud to say I gave them no preference at all. Even threw a No. 11 to an Indepedent I'd never heard of, but no vote for FF.
On the other hand, my #1 was for green...

[dresden8]

Proud to say I gave them no preference at all. Even threw a No. 11 to an Indepedent I'd never heard of, but no vote for FF.
On the other hand, my #1 was for green...

I know, I gave Trev a #2.

Bastard. More fool me.

[bamboozled]

Core principles are as follows:

1. To secure in peace and agreement the unity of Ireland and all its people.
2. To develop a distinctive national life in accordance with the diverse traditions and ideals of the Irish people as part of a broader European culture, and to restore and promote the Irish language as a living language of the people.
3. To guarantee religious and civil liberty, and equal rights, equal treatment and equal opportunities for all the people of Ireland.
4. To develop the resources and wealth of Ireland to their full potential, while making them subservient to the needs and welfare of all the people of Ireland, so as to provide the maximum sustainable employment, based on fostering a spirit of enterprise and self-reliance and on social partnership.
5. To protect the natural environment and heritage of Ireland and to ensure a balance between town and country and between the regions, and to maintain as many families as practicable on the land.
6. To promote the family, and a wider sense of social responsibility, and to uphold the rule of law in the interest of the welfare and safety of the public.
7. To maintain the status of Ireland as a sovereign State, as a full member of the European Union and the United Nations, contributing to peace, disarmament and development on the basis of Ireland's independent foreign policy tradition.
8. To reform the laws and institutions of State, to make them efficient, humane, caring and responsive to the needs of the citizen.

Not all members are corrupt or only out for their own gain. Most members actually want to return to these principles and make Ireland a better place to live. Most members want to bring FF back to being a party working in the interests of the working man. But it seems that you are intent on tarring all of us with the one brush, in which case I'd rather not waste my time indulging you any further.

[EUrJokingMeRight]

Most of the Public Service and their families. Builders voted for FF also. Oh and the Gombeens, cannot forget them.
Next question.
Can I ask that we refer to RTE in future as the Goebbels channel? It might make people start to question the guff RTE put out.

[EUrJokingMeRight]

Core principles are as follows:

1. To secure in peace and agreement the unity of Ireland and all its people.
2. To develop a distinctive national life in accordance with the diverse traditions and ideals of the Irish people as part of a broader European culture, and to restore and promote the Irish language as a living language of the people.
3. To guarantee religious and civil liberty, and equal rights, equal treatment and equal opportunities for all the people of Ireland.
4. To develop the resources and wealth of Ireland to their full potential, while making them subservient to the needs and welfare of all the people of Ireland, so as to provide the maximum sustainable employment, based on fostering a spirit of enterprise and self-reliance and on social partnership.
5. To protect the natural environment and heritage of Ireland and to ensure a balance between town and country and between the regions, and to maintain as many families as practicable on the land.
6. To promote the family, and a wider sense of social responsibility, and to uphold the rule of law in the interest of the welfare and safety of the public.
7. To maintain the status of Ireland as a sovereign State, as a full member of the European Union and the United Nations, contributing to peace, disarmament and development on the basis of Ireland's independent foreign policy tradition.
8. To reform the laws and institutions of State, to make them efficient, humane, caring and responsive to the needs of the citizen.

Not all members are corrupt or only out for their own gain. Most members actually want to return to these principles and make Ireland a better place to live. Most members want to bring FF back to being a party working in the interests of the working man. But it seems that you are intent on tarring all of us with the one brush, in which case I'd rather not waste my time indulging you any further.

Bullsh1t. It's like promising not to raid the cookie jar after it's empty. too late for that, the coFFers are bare. Nice one FF et al.