Poll: 72% want reduction in immigrant numbers

[toxic avenger]

Why because you were holidaying in the Devon/Cornwall countryside?

Are you telling me that they didn't exist?

They did, but more in the 50s and early 60s. I think that's his point (I'm from there and my parents remember them- though they're quick to say that the vast majority of English people were actually great towards them).

[liamfoley]

Whose 'we'

- 'we' were never asked!

It was a royal (or if you prefer, papal) we, ever heard the legal principle "Qui tacet consentire videtur"?

[Catalpa]

Why because you were holidaying in the Devon/Cornwall countryside?

Are you telling me that they didn't exist?

Never seen one in my time there

Never met anyone who did

Never even read a report of such a thing in any media outlet.

Name Date Location Please!

[Middleaged]

Imagine what will happen with your rent when quarter of immigrants will leave, it will huge oversupply on market and properties, which a little bit worse then yours, but for half of price, will appear on market?

All are rented, to companies... short term. long term its up to them... my rents have come down by 1.2%(under inflation) over the last 12 years, and that is because of the last 2 years...

[hiding behind a poster]

What ever else he is

- Shatter is no fool.

I seriously doubt more than a tiny fraction of the People of this State ever took her Story

(and what a Story it was!)

- at face value.

Yet he lent his name to what was in effect an attempt by fraudulent means to decieve the Courts.

Yet he apparently fell for it Hook Line & Sinker!

Why?

Only a tiny fraction of people in this State (mainly the ones like yourself, who are obsessed with keeping as many foreigners off our shores as possible) were even aware of the woman's story, until it emerged that a central plank of her evidence was fraudulent. At which point its obviously easy to claim the story was obviously false - something that wasn't possible beforehand. The fact that people like you instinctively assume that every asylum-seeker is using fraudulent evidence in order to remain here doesn't mean that everyone else should adopt the same attitude.

Shatter did what everyone, including you, should do. He assessed the case based on the available evidence.

[bormotello]

In the UK during the 1970's there were signs, "no blacks, no dogs, and no Irish", how far we've come...

Same here, but with exception for black and dogs
Permission to challenge State on non-EU dependant refused - The Irish Times - Tue, Nov 24, 2009

Mr Justice John Edwards ruled yesterday that the Moylan family had failed to make out the “substantial” grounds necessary under law in asylum and immigration proceedings before judicial review proceedings may be brought.

The action by the Lusk, Co Dublin-based family, all Irish citizens, was regarded as a test case relating to the rights of Irish citizens to have their non-EU dependent relatives live with them here.
John Moylan, who works in RTÉ, and his wife, Tingting, a naturalised Irish citizen, wanted her mother, Lihua Wang, in her 50s, to live with them as a dependant. They said they would pay all her costs, including private health insurance, so she would not be any burden on the State.

Mr Justice Edwards said the family had effectively alleged “reverse discrimination” in that they were being treated differently from non-Irish EU nationals who live here and were entitled under an EU directive on freedom of movement to have their dependent parents reside with them here.

For there to be reverse discrimination, two people must be in a situation of equivalence and one must be treated differently, but that was not the case here.

Tinting Wang was not in a position equivalent to that of a non-Irish EU worker who came to Ireland to take up a job and wished to have a non-EU dependent mother come to live with them, Mr Justice Edwards added. The non-Irish EU worker was exercising their freedom of movement rights under EU treaties and that was not the case here.

It means that refugees can bring their relatives here and state will pay,
EU workers can bring their dependants and state will pay to them after two years
but Irish-born Irish citizen with naturalized wife cannot bring his mother-in-law

[imokyrok]

I lived in Britain in the 1970s + vistited numerous times

- never saw any of these signs you claim existed.

So where then did you see them?

Not sure if they survived into the 70's but they were commonplace in the decades prior to then.
no irish - Google Images

[Catalpa]

Not sure if they survived into the 70's but they were commonplace in the decades prior to then.
no irish - Google Images

Oh for crying out loud

- its the same bloody photo repeated over and over again

and ONE printed card from God knows where!

[Middleaged]

Never seen one in my time there

How long were you there? week, month, year etc...

Never met anyone who did

Thats easy when no -one wants to meet you, loneliness is a side effect

Never even read a report of such a thing in any media outlet.

The Sun doesn't do politics, it does titties, but no politics...

Name Date Location Please!

UK from 1950 onwards....

[imokyrok]

Same here, but with exception for black and dogs
Permission to challenge State on non-EU dependant refused - The Irish Times - Tue, Nov 24, 2009

It means that refugees can bring their relatives here and state will pay,
EU workers can bring their dependants and state will pay to them after two years
but Irish-born Irish citizen with naturalized wife cannot bring his mother-in-law

Well personally I think Lihua Wang should have been allowed to come here to be with her family especially if the family guaranteed to support her but what has that got to do with the freedom of movement of EU citizens within EU borders - assuming Lihua Wang is not already an EU citizen. The case you reference is comparing the rights of a non EU citizen with those of EU citizens not refugees.