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Thread: Fine Gael calls for government action on school book "rip-off"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ang View Post
    Not in all schools no. We have schools here where some choose to offer rental schemes, the rest do not. We have to go and buy them in the local bookshop. As rte pointed out the other night 400euros for one child not including all of the books. He is right the rental schemes should be in all schools.
    There is a lot of snobby students that won't buy second hand books or take hand me downs.

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    If it is the teachers who choose the books then they're at fault. There is absolutely no need to replace books so often. If they simply said, let's use the books we used last yeare there would be no problem and they could buy them up off last year's students. No subjects change significantly enough. I remember I had some Maths book in Secondary School and was told I should get the Euro version despite the fact that the only difference between the two versions was the currency symbol. All the figures were the exact same.

    When I was in primary school, my teacher took it to the extreme though. Reading through one part of a book, and the teacher would say, if it isn't done already just cross out 'Rhodesia' there and change it to 'Zimbabwe'. I went to school in the mid nineties. I think the book was printed sometime in the seventies. It tested the teacher's knowledge though. Less extreme examples were when he would get us to tipex out the border between East and West Germany, but the reunification of Germany had only taken place six years before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    You're not an idiot so don't act like it.
    Rocky's posts are always very concise - and after God knows how long we've all spent explaining the various issues to SPN on all threads, that post just hits the nail on the head.
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    Ireland is a small country,the curriculum is surely uniform(npi).Why not have standardized texts for every subject,approved by DOE(let them show leadership from the top)?This would surely eliminate the chaotic situation and upgrading of books.After all the kids are doing the same State exams at the end of the school experience.Furthermore why don't the DOE become the publisher of school books?Similar with school uniforms?Who needs them anyway,the Church?

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    It's not just the point of Teachers choosing the books. They also write a lot of them. Wonder how much they get paid for that little sideline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cantenaccio View Post
    Ireland is a small country,the curriculum is surely uniform(npi).Why not have standardized texts for every subject,approved by DOE(let them show leadership from the top)?This would surely eliminate the chaotic situation and upgrading of books.After all the kids are doing the same State exams at the end of the school experience.Furthermore why don't the DOE become the publisher of school books?Similar with school uniforms?Who needs them anyway,the Church?
    The DofEd couldn't organise the proverbial pi$$ up in a brewery. You have no idea!

    This is the crowd who think it is cheaper to rent Pre-Fabs instead of building schools.



    Uniforms are a good idea as it gets rid of the need to spend huge amounts on the latest fashions.
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