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    Massive blunders exposed in €87m broadband rollout

    Could not see a thread on this, apologies if there is one. Yet another very expensive cock up by FF. This is on the same level as E-voting.
    Massive blunders exposed in €87m broadband rollout - Technology, Business - Independent.ie

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    Eamon Ryan is a class A idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Factorem View Post
    Eamon Ryan is a class A idiot.
    On what grounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamirer View Post
    On what grounds?
    Is he or is he not the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamirer View Post
    On what grounds?
    That he is a Green
    One of the moderators on here really wrecks my head with his/her power mad ego
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    More goodies to be thrown around to sweeten the electorate

    Five towns identified in the National Spatial Strategy as growth centres -- Tuam, Ennis, Shannon, Castlebar and Mallow -- will still not have any MAN infrastructure by the end of the programme.....

    .....The report says plans to extend the network to towns with a population of less than 9,000 people should be "called into question" because of the low take-up. MANs have been built in dozens of towns with such low populations, including Gort, Co Galway, which has a population of 2,734; and Carndonagh, in Co Donegal, where just 1,923 people live.
    Although there is a bit of a contradiction - Tuam has a population of less than 5k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digout View Post
    Could not see a thread on this, apologies if there is one. Yet another very expensive cock up by FF. This is on the same level as E-voting.
    Massive blunders exposed in €87m broadband rollout - Technology, Business - Independent.ie
    No it isn't. It's Indo spin. Go find the Times article on it.

    I was waiting all day for this thread. Damien Mulley's piece was far more balanced than the 'news' piece but it's far too early to tell whether as a long term investment it is a piece of brilliant foresight or a white elephant. The connection cost is the fundamental problem but that might be addressed once e-net take hold of P2.

    Responsibility for this rests exclusively with Dermot Ahern, who as Minister in 2003 insisted that the criteria for deciding if there should be all towns with a population in excess of 1,500 people - and not on any industrial need.

    But while responsibility rests with him, so too will credit if this turns out to be a key infrastructure for inward investment over the next 40 years. I wouldn't jump to conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Factorem View Post
    Is he or is he not the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources?
    and what has that got to do with the issue at hand? C'mon.. tease it out for me - I'm fascinated by your thinking that he is an idiot - in relation to this thread....

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    A) Eamon Ryan was not Minister for Communications in 2003, or in 2005, when this scheme was being rolled out.

    B) County Councillors had an input into this process, and in many cases it was Fine Gael Councillors who decided where the MANs were to go.

    C) There are many more MANs idle than the figures used by the Independent are showing.
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    A bit unfair to blame it all on Eamon Ryan:

    Construction of the broadband network, known as Metropolitan Area Networks (MANs), began in 2003 in two phases and cost €172m...

    Phase two was announced in November 2003 and has so far seen 59 MANs completed at a cost of €87m. Just four are being used -- in [COLOR=#306294]Longford[/COLOR], Carrigaline, [COLOR=#306294]Co Cork[/COLOR], [COLOR=#306294]Tralee[/COLOR] and [COLOR=#306294]Killarney[/COLOR]. Not until next week will a company be appointed to manage the networks and sell broadband capacity to operators.
    As adamirer said, this is Dermot "being Taoiseach is my birthright" Ahern's baby.
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