Catholic control of schooling untenable -- Diarmaid Martin

[Factorem]

You'd never know. I might now be able to get a job as a teacher!

Why would you of all people want a teaching job in a Catholic school? Is annoying Catholics your favourite past-time?

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

I agree. I'd much prefer quality over quantity.

There are children coming out of so-called Catholic schools who don't even know the Our Father, let alone the Angelus. I blame the priests, teachers and the parents.

A whole new plan for catechisis needs to be devised. And not like the airy-fairy stuff the last time round.

Let me guess. The difficult airy fairy stuff will have to go so thats Adam and Eve into room 101. Oh, and virgin births. Nobody is swallowing that. You may say its 'symbolic' but I still say you are better off finding some bollix. And transubstantiation, transmutation and a few others trans I won't go into.

And the resurrection. Seriously, Faccy baby, you don't want to get lumbered with that high-fat saturated nonsense. You are stretching there WAAYYY beyond the brand.

I recommend crystals. Soft lighting. Alternative therapy is a fast growing market. Just ask the Christian Brothers over at the Emmaus centre how fast that shytt's selling.

Good luck with the new Book.

[MichaelR]

The Bishop's words are an excellent start. Perhaps the RC church could sell or, more realistically in this climate, lease some schools at a moderate rate to alternate groups, like Educate Together?

It's a win-win-win. The RC church keeps other schools, the other groups get the long-needed buildings, and the parents and children get competitive choice in education.

[MichaelR]

I agree. I'd much prefer quality over quantity.

There are children coming out of so-called Catholic schools who don't even know the Our Father, let alone the Angelus. I blame the priests, teachers and the parents.

A whole new plan for catechisis needs to be devised. And not like the airy-fairy stuff the last time round.

Why don't you do a voluntary monopoly break-up then?

I don't mean give up RC schooling - I mean give up (lease or otherwise) some schools to ET and possibly to Protestants, thus making non-RC schooling more widely available.

In this case, you'll have people who actually want RC schooling, rather than those who just had no realistic choice. It will be much easier to teach the catechism in this environment.

[Factorem]

Let me guess. The difficult airy fairy stuff will have to go so thats Adam and Eve into room 101. Oh, and virgin births. Nobody is swallowing that. You may say its 'symbolic' but I still say you are better off finding some bollix. And transubstantiation, transmutation and a few others trans I won't go into.

Catholicism does not teach that the virgin birth was "symbolic". Perhaps it's you who needs to go back to school. And there's no need to be such a twat with your reasoning ("bolix" etc.)

And the resurrection. Seriously, Faccy baby, you don't want to get lumbered with that high-fat saturated nonsense. You are stretching there WAAYYY beyond the brand.

I wonder would you be so ridiculing of other religious persons? Jews, Muslims, etc? Or is your ridicule reserved solely for Catholics. We've been through 2000 years of people like you, yet the Church still lives strong regardless of what you might say, think or do.

It's a miracle that you or I exist. Or do you have a scientific explanation for all that?

I recommend crystals. Soft lighting. Alternative therapy is a fast growing market. Just ask the Christian Brothers over at the Emmaus centre how fast that shytt's selling.

Don't give up the day job.

[Factorem]

Why don't you do a voluntary monopoly break-up then?

I don't mean give up RC schooling - I mean give up (lease or otherwise) some schools to ET and possibly to Protestants, thus making non-RC schooling more widely available.

In this case, you'll have people who actually want RC schooling, rather than those who just had no realistic choice. It will be much easier to teach the catechism in this environment.

Who knows what the clergy are thinking.

[SirHenryGrattan]

I think at this time referring to the way the UK school has system has gone where the secularisation of the system has ensured the decline into mediocrity.

The schools where parents are making a clear choice where to send their children are to the Independent Religious Schools.

This is also true in Australia. Single sex schools are the way to go.

blogs.thewest.com.au Blog Archive NEWS BLOG - Would kids perform better in same-sex classes?

Single sex schools - Local news - inMyCommunity - Perth, Western Australia

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Who knows what the clergy are thinking.

Thats what worries us.

[asset test]

Diarmuid Martin is saying what a lot of people are thinking, and is reflecting the current mood of a lot of people.

However, I also think that this statement might, just might, be pre empting the shock to come when the Dublin Diocese report on Child Abuse comes out soon. Watch this space.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

I'm dreading that report if half the rumours about it turn out to be true.