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About LinkBacksFair play to the good Bishop. Grabbing the bull by the horns and dealing with the issue of Catholic education which has become very wishy-washy.
Fair play to the good Bishop. Grabbing the bull by the horns and dealing with the issue of Catholic education which has become very wishy-washy.
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"Good for him. It is good to see that at least one person in the hierarchy of the Catholic Church is beginning to realise the fact that they cannot dominate schooling anymore."
Why are you interfering in the internal affairs of the Catholic Church?
"The fact that the CC has dominated schooling here is actually a breach of the constitution"
If you think that, why not take a test case? The Catholic Church has no more rights than the Protestant Churches.
Glennshane: what would you do with all the Catholic-by-name schools? Hold on to them and hope for the best?Originally Posted by Glennshane
(stop being a twat -- we all know you know how to use the 'quote' button)
So you resort to vulgarity because you cannot answer my points.
Glennshane:
In the six counties there is a need for integrated education - a multi-denominational approach - to bring the sides of the six county community together again. While we in the 26 counties are an increasingly multi-religion multi-ethnic country when a multi-denominational approach is needed.
RIRA not in my name-Traitors to Ireland MMcGuinness; People are entitled to cultural & social equality MLMcDonald; We have a length to go understanding unionism GAdams
Are you speaking on behalf of SF here, factual? You often talk about integrated education in the north. Does SF see Catholic education as objectionable per se or just where they believe it reinforces/perpetuates sectarian segregation? Your latest comments suggest the former.
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"they must relinquish control of both primary and secondary schools"
Why? And let the education of Catholic children be controlled or influenced by anti-Catholics. Should the Protestant churches relinquish control of the education of Protestants?
"they should also get of public hospitals, the Mater for example."
Why? If the State wants the Mater hospital, it should make a bid to buy it.
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Posters who abuse others or use vulgar language should be banned. The fact that you want me banned indicates that you cannot give the guarantees which I have been suggesting - and which practising Catholics would probably demand before agreeing to a hand-over of their schools.
Well the real scale of the problem is that the percenatage of students who go to catholic run schools and would consider themselves catholic is much much lower.
When I was in my catholic run school (only few weeks I finished up), we had a survey done of all the people who are weekly mass goers and who would cosdier themselves catholic in my 6th year class. We did this in history class as we were talking about the influence of religion on irish society.
The results were that 2 out of the 24 in the class would go to mass weekly and consider themselves catholic, which is around 8%. Now I know that this is only one class but I would be very surprised to see any higher figures. And yet, for the six years of our school lives, a catholic run order was in conrol of our education. There is where the alarming problem is.
The Catholic schools were already in existence from the inception of the State. Building a network of state schools alongside them for which there was no demand would have been considered an absurd and expensive folly.The State FAILED consistently since its inception to provide non-faith schools which led to the RCC dominated system we now have.
If there is more demand today for non-religious schools, it is the duty of the government to meet that demand.
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