Catholic control of schooling untenable -- Diarmaid Martin

[Toland]

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[Glennshane]

[QUOTE=tmesis2008;1785501]

"I don't see why schools should be reflective of religious/superstitious parental opinion."

Why should Catholics allow the education of their children to be controlled by anyone who regards Catholicism as superstition?

"Quite simply schools should be for education and education only. Churches should be for indoctrination."

I am happy with that but how do you prevent anti-Catholic teachers or pupils insulting the children of Catholics? Segregation is in itself desirable.

"Most of us actually believe that children have a right to an education"

And Catholic children have a right to be educated in safety from anti-Catholics.

[Glennshane]

Don't use the non-faith schools in sink areas to justify your desire for the continuance of religious dominance in education.

Is that an order? Why not leave it to parents to decide whether they want their children to be educated in secular controlled schools or in faith controlled schools?

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

The UK experience has got nothing to do with religion. If you have an underresourced school, packed classrooms and no discipline it really doesn't matter whether there is a plaster statute of Mary or whoever in the hall.

Claiming that UK schools have gone downhill because of a lack of religious education is yet more b*llocks from the Flat Earth Society.

But then again it ain't really lying if you are doing it on behalf of the church is it?

[odie1kanobe]

The UK experience has got nothing to do with religion. If you have an underresourced school, packed classrooms and no discipline it really doesn't matter whether there is a plaster statute of Mary or whoever in the hall.

Claiming that UK schools have gone downhill because of a lack of religious education is yet more b*llocks from the Flat Earth Society.

But then again it ain't really lying if you are doing it on behalf of the church is it?

You are an indication of what the UK educational establishment produces. Oh the Irony of that.

[tmesis2008]

You are an indication of what the UK educational establishment produces. Oh the Irony of that.

Instead of attacking another poster you would do well to produce an argument as to how the lack of "faith" in a school and the lack of "faith" alone makes it a vastly poorer school.

[tmesis2008]

Glennshane,

I feel I should be clear:

F U C K
O F F.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

You are an indication of what the UK educational establishment produces. Oh the Irony of that.

I was born, brought up and educated in Ireland. Thats the danger with crediting 'faith' instead of knowledge. You end up looking foolish.

[FrankSpeaks]

Its about time they saw sense on this issue, they must relinquish control of both primary and secondary schools and they should also get of public hospitals, the Mater for example.

[FrankSpeaks]

Glennshane,

I feel I should be clear:

F U C K
O F F.

I agree, he got banned when he was called Roger, hopefully it will happen again.