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About LinkBacksShould a state be thankful???Originally Posted by sheamuseen
Should a state be thankful???
My children are educated in Catholic schools,which I am happy, there are other children there from other religions,which I am equally happy, every year an explicit note comes from the schools reminding us that the schools teaching ethos is "catholic", and religious teaching will follow this ethos.
Parents can opt in or out if they wish, I can't see how that is "right wing".
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Well if they think they are going to change it they'll have to get past us first, and as you say there are alot of us.
The child abuse scandal although historical has given a full on smack in the gob to the druids and it follows that they are now in retreat imo. But they will regroup. The lines between here and Rome are buzzing these days, to be sure, with policies and strategies aplenty being worked out. They have a formidable global organisation which will, although damaged survive.
Prepare yourselves for more guff about the church being the people which is one of the sleight of hand devices that the marketing department thought of late in the last century.
The current turbulence in this fair land gives us the opportunity to knock back the cult of druidism on it's ass and I sincerely hope that they do just that. The younger and rising population will certainly see to that more so than the aged and aging who are not noted for embracing change. Clerical charades and unthinking conformity have not yet been sidelined.
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The state can't be allowed to have a monopoly in education. It's too important. Understandable disgust at the appalling record of the Church should not close our minds to the dangers of a state monopoly.
We have many utterly incompetent teachers who can't be removed and who are protected by their unions. The unions have more power in the education system than the Church do these days and they should not be given more.
The fundamentals of education must be safeguarded in this ideological side-show about ownership but there must be change too. Parents should have the right by referendum to remove a school patron. Preparation for communion and confirmation should be outside the normal school day and participation should be a matter for the children and their parents to decide.
In secondary schools religion should be an optional subject at all levels. Groups like educate together should be facilitated in taking over existing schools where they can show the demand exists.
The outcome we should all look for is choice and diversity at all levels. The department of education should regulate schools not run them except where there is no alternative.
Quinn has failed to produce any evidence at all to back up either of his scare stories and can be dismissed as an opportunistic windbag with a state monopoly agenda.
Similar to what TradCat,
The unions are far more dangerous that the church. Take a look a America, far more abuses in the state run schools than the religious ones. Also most children are abused by family members, so what can you do about that? Nothing.
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It is clear that he does.
If the state takes over the Catholic schools it will have to take over all denominational schools. That's a state monopoly or as close as makes no difference.Labour TD Ruairi Quinn has claimed that Catholic schools could fall into the control of right wing Catholic fundamentalists unless they are taken into State ownership
He is a windbag because he is making allegations without evidence.
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