The Labour Party To Nationalise All Catholic Schools

[Glennshane]

[QUOTE=marmurr1916;1564718][URL="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/0414/1224244622989.html"]

"If he's right, then the need for genuinely secular state-funded primary schools is even more urgent."

I read the article. I have no great quarrel with any of it. Nevertheless, Mr Spicer was vague about the possible solutions. He did not explain why he and like-minded folk do not establish humanist schools. But he did not indulge in any aggression against Catholics so I suspend judgement.

[Earnest]

If the school is outside the jurisdiction it is irrelevant to this discussion. The laws and schooling system of the U.K. are none of my business.

My comments are about the law and schools in the republic.

Armagh Road, Crumlin, Dublin 12. If you thought I was talking about Crumlin Co. Antrim, why didn't you object earlier?

[diddleydoo]

A place that you'd not want to visit

Let's say south of Newcastle but North of Birmingham lol

Trust me though, you may not agree with Religion in Education but I can tell that they out perform secular schools every time for grades, reputation and pupil behaviour.

I was picked on repeatedly on religious and ethnic grounds in one hellhole of a secular school I thankfully left

No, how could that be!?

Shane.

[diddleydoo]

I couldn't be bothered reading more than the first handful of pages of this thread.

A lot of catholics in Ireland today seem to be incredibly lazy and quite socialist leaving the religious education of their children up to third parties by sending them to denominational schools.

They also seem to get up in an awful tizzy about their kids not being brainwashed, sorry, educated in religious sillyness, sorry, doctrine in a school of their choice. While the constitution below

4. The State shall provide for free primary education and shall endeavour to supplement and give reasonable aid to private and corporate educational initiative, and, when the public good requires it, provide other educational facilities or institutions with due regard, however, for the rights of parents, especially in the matter of religious and moral formation.

does make mention of religious beliefs with regard to the education system, it does NOT ensure that the schools should actively TEACH the religions. It simply required that facilities should be provided with regard to parent's beliefs.

If you want your kids to believe something, teach them yourselves you lazy people and leave education up to the state.

Personally I find the constitutional support for inflicting a parent's beliefs on a child to be in itself wrong.

Shane.