Why not end the compulsory teaching of English after the Leaving Cert. Everyone is fluent after the Junior Cert anyway. Should we have Hamlet quotations shoved down our throats?
Why not end the compulsory teaching of English after the Leaving Cert. Everyone is fluent after the Junior Cert anyway. Should we have Hamlet quotations shoved down our throats?
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.Originally Posted by Déise
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Originally Posted by Déise
What a very good point - the Irish are bombarded by English culture anyway - the classroom should be a place of safety.
being fluent does not necessarily confer being proficient, as the grammer in some of the posts here will attest!Originally Posted by Déise
if we had to start with "ending the compulsion" of any subject i'd start with irish (it being the least relevant to modern day living). though i'm sure that what you wanted someone to say so you can launch into your gaelgoir/anti-english rant.
i'm in favour of our current system of a broad education.
english
irish
maths
foreign language
science
an other (i took business)
i would have preferred to drop irish and take up either german (my language was spanish) or physics (my other science was biology).
Not being able to govern events, I govern myself. -Michel de Montaigne, essayist (1533-1592)
Point 1: some of us are fluent before the Junior Cert.Originally Posted by joel
Point 2: Joel is mad. I also hope the irony of his above post is not wasted on him.
Sorry to burst your bubble. English is not compulsory.Originally Posted by Déise
Originally Posted by red365
English, Mathematics and Irish are compulsary subjects for students taking the Leaving Certificate.
You can opt out of Irish if you never studied the languange prior to 5th class or the age of 11. There is no opt out for English as far as I'm aware.
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irish is the only compulsory subject. if you fail irish you fail your leaving cert outright regardless of other grades.Originally Posted by Sligoboy
if you fail english or maths you still can pass your leaving cert but will not get into college. huge difference.
Not being able to govern events, I govern myself. -Michel de Montaigne, essayist (1533-1592)
Meriwether,
You've had your head so far up English b- that you just don't know where you are - Ireland is not the English Home counties.![]()
Isn't the necessity to have successfully obtained passes in English, Irish, Maths and a foreign language just a requirement for admittance to most universities and other establishments of third level education.
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