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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad as Fish View Post
    So why lie back and suck it up? It's our future as much as anybody else's? We are going to have to start pointing out that we as individuals own our own lives, yet the the thrust of technology is to deprive us of that basic assumption. As I have pointed out before, often to ignorant derision, the cashless society, autonomous cars and ID cards simply render us units to be managed and controlled. It doesn't have to be like that at all, but we are told that it will be by those who are simply out to make money from it, that's all, it's not about the greater good of the human race, they just pretend it is as the greed gets the better of them.
    Yeah... that's all great and all... but you're not going to put the tech genie back in its bottle... and if anyone tries it will simply go underground and be more dodgy and more unregulated than it is... and will probably produce more threatening consequences.

    Like it or not it's happening and it's probably better to be involved than to be an unwilling victim raging against a machine that ain't going anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad as Fish View Post
    I'm not Elon Musk's greatest fan by any means, but occasionally he talks sense -

    Elon Musk Says 'AI Is a Fundamental Risk to the Future of Human Civilisation' | Technology News
    Stephen Hawking was saying similar a few years back.

    There are undoubtedly risks involved... and plenty of negative consequences... but none of this stuff can be uninvented and so it has to be managed and regulated as effectively and as ethically as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad as Fish View Post
    suck up all the available talent
    There's some truth in this.

    If you are a graduate coming out, it's easy to opt for the salaries and certainty of a multi-national rather than do something innovative. However, it beats the situation when I came out of college, when IT graduates mostly ended up working in IT for financial services in London.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanner Island View Post
    Yeah... that's all great and all... but you're not going to put the tech genie back in its bottle... and if anyone tries it will simply go underground and be more dodgy and more unregulated than it is... and will probably produce more threatening consequences.

    Like it or not it's happening and it's probably better to be involved than to be an unwilling victim raging against a machine that ain't going anywhere.
    Technology is not new, it's been around since mankind harnessed fire, it is how it is used that is of concern, and we most certainly should have a say in that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad as Fish View Post
    So why lie back and suck it up? It's our future as much as anybody else's? We are going to have to start pointing out that we as individuals own our own lives, yet the the thrust of technology is to deprive us of that basic assumption. As I have pointed out before, often to ignorant derision, the cashless society, autonomous cars and ID cards simply render us units to be managed and controlled. It doesn't have to be like that at all, but we are told that it will be by those who are simply out to make money from it, that's all, it's not about the greater good of the human race, they just pretend it is as the greed gets the better of them.
    Sez the guy siting at his computer plugged into the electricity mains and supported by the world wide technology industry.
    You couldn't make it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Who is John Galt? View Post
    Sez the guy siting at his computer plugged into the electricity mains and supported by the world wide technology industry.
    You couldn't make it up!
    You might note that I used the phrase - "often to ignorant derision", to which you respond with a classic example of such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad as Fish View Post
    I'm not Elon Musk's greatest fan by any means, but occasionally he talks sense -

    Elon Musk Says 'AI Is a Fundamental Risk to the Future of Human Civilisation' | Technology News
    He is correct and sadly we are doing nothing about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McSlaggart View Post
    He is correct and sadly we are doing nothing about it.
    I reckon the next great evolutionary step for humanity will be that we will merge with machines.

    It will make interstellar travel much more viable if our consciousness is supported by a machine as opposed to our current vulnerable biological form and the life support that is required for that.

    As part of a machine we could be shut down for millenia as we travel and then 'booted up' at our destination... which would greatly reduce the time and space and life support barriers we currently face.

    It's not a particularly attractive prospect imo... and it would be an entirely different 'existence' to what we do now... but it's where we're probably heading if real interstellar travel is to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad as Fish View Post
    You might note that I used the phrase - "often to ignorant derision", to which you respond with a classic example of such.
    Did you run that post over to P.ie on a piece of parchment stuck in a cleft stick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanner Island View Post
    I reckon the next great evolutionary step for humanity will be that we will merge with machines.

    It will make interstellar travel much more viable if our consciousness is supported by a machine as opposed to our current vulnerable biological form and the life support that is required for that.

    As part of a machine we could be shut down for millenia as we travel and then 'booted up' at our destination... which would greatly reduce the time and space and life support barriers we currently face.

    It's not a particularly attractive prospect imo... and it would be an entirely different 'existence' to what we do now... but it's where we're probably heading if real interstellar travel is to happen.
    Dunno......if politicians get it hard to finance stuff with a five year delivery, how much harder will it be to get projects off the ground with a five thousand year delivery?
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