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    The complaint in the US is that the school system became stuffed with administrators and education standards havnt risen to justify the added cost. The education system has become a haven for the work shy and their practices reflect this. It would be easy enough to compete against these schools for a lower price and a better education for students




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    "Rich" kids do better because their parents take a big interest in their education.

    Many working class kids have parents who don't put the same value on education.

    Tricky one to solve. But things are changing slowly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideysGhost View Post
    Jesus not more far-right dribbling insanity.

    The idea of school vouchers was dreamt up by that lunatic Friedman, backed up by that other peddler of WingNut voodoo hoohaa von Hayek.

    Just how many times do the deranged notions of the insane neo-liberal right have to spectacularly blow up causing massive misery, before the swivel-eyed acolytes of this cartoonish absurd religion start to get a clue?
    Why do you live in a neo-liberal kip by choice?

    It's a racist neo-liberal kip.

    New Zealand's Neoliberal Reforms: Half a Revolution - Boston - 2014 - Governance - Wiley Online Library

    New Zealand human rights body warns against country becoming 'as racist as Australia' 
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBP voter View Post
    "Rich" kids do better because their parents take a big interest in their education.

    Many working class kids have parents who don't put the same value on education.

    Tricky one to solve. But things are changing slowly.
    what's been done to make that change?
    ie to improve the value placed on a good education by society in general
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    Don't we have a de-facto voucher system in place
    Schools compete for students (outside Dublin anyway)
    Schools get capitation grant based on number of students enrolled
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    In fairness it's the predominant ideology, really it's the only show in town at the moment, there are very few other options unless you buy your own island.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulp View Post
    Don't we have a de-facto voucher system in place
    Schools compete for students (outside Dublin anyway)
    Schools get capitation grant based on number of students enrolled
    on the supply side though you cant just setup a school and cash the cheques?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverharp View Post
    on the supply side though you cant just setup a school and cash the cheques?
    don't "educate together", for example, do that?
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    We already have a de facto voucher system. Most schools are owned by private bodies who receive funding from the state.

    It seems that some of our posters are so in thrall of right wing thought across the sea and the ocean that they want to introduce policies which are already in place. I think Eagle was onto something when she commented to the effect that some posters are more interested in Anglo-American culture wars and supporting their team then they are of actual politics in Ireland. In a way I'm guilty of that myself its so much easier to pick a ideological side in a foreign country where you have nothing to lose and the intricacies,compromises and emotional attachments of domestic politics don't come into play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulp View Post
    don't "educate together", for example, do that?
    maybe its over regulated then, I don't know the process in fairness but it just doesn't look like you can just rent a couple of Georgian buildings on Merrion square and open up a school knowing you will be paid if you fill it.
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