Whats wrong 2.5 hours of English a week in Irish school

[lostexpectation]

so some irish speakers are still battling against the rule that all children must be thought english from the first year of school,

2.5 hours
how many hours would a full week be for a kid in eh junior infants is that what first year of school is still called? 9-2... 5 hours a day?

5x5 =25 - 1 x5 for play/lunch? classes are 20mins long...?

2.5 hours is 150 minutes so maybe it is 30mins of english class a day.

so is that ratio of Irish to English of 10:1 timewise...or perhaps 6:1 for just 'class' time.

(plus you could be teaching English through Irish...like you would french)

ah heres a list for one school

School begins at 9:30 a.m.
Lunchtime is from 12:30 p.m to 1:00 p.m.
School finishes at 3:10 p.m for 1st to 6th class.
School finishes at 2:40 p.m for Senior Infants
School finishes at 2:10 p.m for Junior Infants.

# The Junior Infant school day starts at the usual time of 9:30 a.m. and home-time is at 2:10 p.m.
# Morning break or "Sos" is at 10:50 a.m. - 11:00 a.m.
# Lunch-time is from 12:30 - 1:00 p.m.

*shrug* somebody correct my math

[Riadach]

What's wrong with not doing so when it's considered internationally to be best practice in regard to language immersion?

[gaelach]

What's wrong with not doing so when it's considered internationally to be best practice in regard to language immersion?

I went to an Irish school and we always did at least a half an hour of English every day.....

Good thing as well!

[Coles]

English is taught from first class in the Gaelscoileanna, so all that we are discussing is junior and senior infants.
What's the problem? Could I hazard a guess that none of this affects you in the slightest little bit?

[Riadach]

What's wrong with not doing so when it's considered internationally to be best practice in regard to language immersion?

I went to an Irish school and we always did at least a half an hour of English every day.....

Good thing as well!

From junior infants?

[gaelach]

What's wrong with not doing so when it's considered internationally to be best practice in regard to language immersion?

I went to an Irish school and we always did at least a half an hour of English every day.....

Good thing as well!

From junior infants?

As far as I can remember, we had a book with a boy, a girl and a big Labrador!From Naíonán Mhóra definitely .

[Ard-Taoiseach]

What's wrong with not doing so when it's considered internationally to be best practice in regard to language immersion?

I went to an Irish school and we always did at least a half an hour of English every day.....

Good thing as well!

If you hadn't gained that immersion from the gaelscoil, do you think you would have as good Irish as you do now? I didn't go to one, you see, and therefore the language isn't in my head as much as English would be. I can certainly understand about 90% on the Gaeilge forum here and can watch many TG4 programmes without resort to the fó-teidealí, but it doesn't sit as comfortably in my head as I think it does in yours.

I am increasingly of the opinion that for a serious revival in Irish the whole number of our primary and secondary schools must be turned into gaelscoileanna. I feel more and more that that is the way to get the up-take and usage of Irish to come to be on a par with English.

[TradCat]

Ard-Taoiseach

You mean you would force people into all-Irish schools? I wish Irish well and support the right of parents to choose schools for their children where it is the main language but I have no wish to join them.

[Coles]

What's wrong with not doing so when it's considered internationally to be best practice in regard to language immersion?

I went to an Irish school and we always did at least a half an hour of English every day.....

Good thing as well!

If you hadn't gained that immersion from the gaelscoil, do you think you would have as good Irish as you do now? I didn't go to one, you see, and therefore the language isn't in my head as much as English would be. I can certainly understand about 90% on the Gaeilge forum here and can watch many TG4 programmes without resort to the fó-teidealí, but it doesn't sit as comfortably in my head as I think it does in yours.

I am increasingly of the opinion that for a serious revival in Irish the whole number of our primary and secondary schools must be turned into gaelscoileanna. I feel more and more that that is the way to get the up-take and usage of Irish to come to be on a par with English.

Well said A-T. I've watched my little princess blossom in a Gaelscoil, and I would urge every parent to seriously consider a Gaelscoil education for their children. Any notion that it affects a child's english language skills is nonsense.

[jerryp]

What's wrong with not doing so when it's considered internationally to be best practice in regard to language immersion?

I went to an Irish school and we always did at least a half an hour of English every day.....

Good thing as well!

If you hadn't gained that immersion from the gaelscoil, do you think you would have as good Irish as you do now? I didn't go to one, you see, and therefore the language isn't in my head as much as English would be. I can certainly understand about 90% on the Gaeilge forum here and can watch many TG4 programmes without resort to the fó-teidealí, but it doesn't sit as comfortably in my head as I think it does in yours.

I am increasingly of the opinion that for a serious revival in Irish the whole number of our primary and secondary schools must be turned into gaelscoileanna. I feel more and more that that is the way to get the up-take and usage of Irish to come to be on a par with English.

You might as well drain the Shannon while you're at it !