A giant elephant in the room of IQ testing has been the 'Flynn effect'. Odd that the brains of Mensa did not solve that particular conundrum, or produce a testing method that is accurate regardless of cultural or environmental factors. To much of an ask? Or perhaps was there no will by Mensa to rock the apple cart they thought they were riding on top of? Their motivation, and selective lack of it, suggests that self interest or self regard is of a higher premium than actual intellectualism.
What is the Flynn effect? - Curiosity
Now it occurs to me that "todays society" is not the realms of genius. Genius tends to exist apart from general discourse and interaction, so standard IQ tests might be unable to properly detect or gauge it. So if Mesa is representitive of anything, it is general intelligence, and not anything actually special. People who do have real genius don't sit around trying to ace tests while taking a dump on those who can't. Hence Menso seems not to be a bastion of the extra ordinary, but simply the concentration of the recognisably, if refined, ordinary. Their contribution to the betterment of mankind is pretty much nil, unless one considers high self regard and selective analysis to be of value. Managing to weigh their own intellect in terms of 'carrots' is unworthy of even the dimmest mind.Still, standardized tests that schools administer to students have shown that scores have not risen in academic subjects such as vocabulary and arithmetic, but scores that measure "general intelligence," such as abstract reasoning and ability to infer logic, have risen [source: Neuroanthropology]. This would imply that there is nothing wrong with IQ testing, but that people have become more skilled at the kinds of hypothetical, logical reasoning we need in today's society.
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I know one guy who I think would qualify as having an intellectual disability. Due to hydrocephalus in his infancy, he has huge short term memory issues. He can very easily get lost and forget where he's been even an hour ago. He might send me a text message and then send a similar one about 15 minutes later because he's forgotten he sent the first one.
He keeps two notebooks - one for where he's been and one for his plans over the next few days. So he knows where he's been (in case he misplaces something and needs to retrace his steps) and knows where he's meant to be. He also has very poor eyesight and major health issues - especially wrt his kidneys.
Until he was made redundant a few months ago, he had a job in call centre for something approaching 15 years. I see big strapping guys around town here who have none of his disabilities, haven't worked a day in their lives and have no intention to. He, with all his disabilities, has been paying to keep them on welfare, despite the added struggle he faces.
For many years, Stone maintained that she had an IQ of 148 and was a member of Mensa, but in April 2002, she admitted she was not, and had never been, a member of that society. Jim Blackmore of Mensa said, "It's delightful to finally see Ms. Stone admit that she's not and never has been a member of our society." Blackmore admits Stone may be as clever as many like to think. He says, "My gut feeling is that she would definitely qualify. But that's just based on what we've been told by other individuals."[/wikipedia]
Self selection is not sufficient for membership.
I don't understand why Mensa exists at all. What exactly is it for? Why does someone who has a high IQ need to belong to some sort of special club?