Here is o he study on business schools on irisheconomy (google business school rankings Tol)
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"QUB ranks 19th in the 2008 RAE; UU ranks 49th out of 90 business schools. Although the RAE uses a very different methodology, this suggests that TCD and UCD are on par with the best 20 business schools in the UK, while the other business schools in the Republic are more like the worst 40."

So. We have two business schools that are comparable with the top uk schools, themselves. Amongst the top in the world. If we want truly world class rankings then fund these two and not the others.

Originally Posted by YouKnowWhatIMeanLike

true academics in Irish institutions don't like to teach that's a real problem one that I can't get my head around. It's almost an insult to ask an Irish academic to teach these days.

That's just gossip.

Originally Posted by rant_and_rave

There aren't enough seats for 17,000 students in Trinity, even if lectures were staggered over a month. Perhaps it has a large distance learning program.

Student Numbers - Trinity College Dublin

In total, there were 16,747 registered students in 2010/11

11,844 undergraduates (11,455 full-time / 389 part-time)
4,903 postgraduates (3,247 full-time / 1,656 part-time)
88% of our students are full-time
29% of students are postgraduates

Originally Posted by ManUnited

That's just gossip.

just inadmissible hearsay ...

Originally Posted by YouKnowWhatIMeanLike

just inadmissible hearsay ...

Your not backing up any statements because you can't can you. I call Horlick

Originally Posted by Anewdawn

Your not backing up any statements because you can't can you. I call Horlick

for example?

For example, the alleged obscenities you allege we're perpetrated. Or the alleged secret reports that are s egret to all bar you because they are negative. Or the alleged reluctance to teach.
Give some facts.

Originally Posted by Anewdawn

For example, the alleged obscenities you allege we're perpetrated. Or the alleged secret reports that are s egret to all bar you because they are negative. Or the alleged reluctance to teach.
Give some facts.

Google yourself and make sure that we are not finding things that shouldn't be found

Originally Posted by drummed

The salaries are in fact not out of order by international standards. But sure continue on the cost saving drive, that's clearly the solution.

The university sector is very open, internationally, in recruitment. A large number of staff in Irish universities are from other countries, and by the same token, there are many Irish people working in universities abroad. In this environment salaries need to be competitive.

Originally Posted by YouKnowWhatIMeanLike

.............. I am not talking about salaries if the hedge-fund/ academic millionaire leaders at the Ivy League institutions.

Would you care to make a proper sentence out of that.....some meaning maybe? Thank you.

Originally Posted by YouKnowWhatIMeanLike

Salaries are the big, big issue in Ireland that will drive down quality of education in the near term.

Are you saying that it's all about money?

Originally Posted by YouKnowWhatIMeanLike

Now to the new funding streams, good research universities will generate revenue if they are up there with world leaders don't you worry. foster real, industry relevant research and you will reap the harvest.

I object, strongly, to the notion that Education should be the servant of money ['generate revenue', 'research university' et al]. Third level activity is about the acquiring of knowledge, using that knowledge, and developing knowledge & experience in the process of uncovering new knowledge.

It's about time we re-learned that 'money' was intended as a servant, and not a master.