Originally Posted by Roll_On

and say if the state were to cease those schools budgets??

Who knows - let it try and we shall find out

Originally Posted by ArtyisBack

I did not.

You are.

And I do not think he is.

he referred to my marriage as a threat to humanity, how can that be interpreted as anything other than extremely offensive?

Originally Posted by MariaMcN

Catholics schools aren't anti-gay. No-one can cite a case in Ireland where a teacher was dismissed for being gay.

Is it your contention that if a school dismissed a teacher for being gay, that this would be evidence that the school in question is anti-gay?

Originally Posted by Roll_On

so you can be black but you can't sit up the front of the bus basically.

Why not?

Originally Posted by MariaMcN

They'd probably find it difficult to get married in a Catholic Church, unless they were prepared to lie.

lol Irish people get married in churches for the pomp and ceremony and they give the priest a few quid.

Originally Posted by Roll_On

then why spend money campaigning against the marriage equality movement, which only concerns it's self with civil marriage?

Some Catholic organisations in some places have put money into this. Maybe they think changing the basic definition of marriage will compromise it's meaning across the board.

Originally Posted by Roll_On

lol Irish people get married in churches for the pomp and ceremony and they give the priest a few quid.

AFAIK, you have to have some connection to the Parish in question, you have to seek permission to get married there and you have to undergo a marriage preparation course. Catholic marriage is not supposed to be for atheists.

Originally Posted by MariaMcN

Some Catholic organisations in some places have put money into this. Maybe they think changing the basic definition of marriage will compromise it's meaning across the board.

Not just some catholic organizations the church itself is actively campaigning against gay civil marriage!!!!

Originally Posted by Cato

Did you see the mini-series? It prompted me to read up on him. A fascinating and admirable man.

Nay, what was it called? Those founding father types were a mightily impressive bunch in general, I've got a particular fondness for Madison in particular ( apart from the whole slave-holding thing )

the whole suggestion that the RCC is not anti gay is ridiculous, I spent many a lunch break in college defacing and destroying anti gay literature dispensed by the catholic chaplaincy.