Parents intolerant of disabled children being in their own children's classes.

[Tombo]

I think you merit some punishment by silence.

There was no emotional insult from anything I wrote. You have poor debating skills!

You're simply a tosser.

[alloverbartheshouting]

Who does it benefit?

Certainly not the disabled child who will now face the struggle of trying to keep up with their friends and all the emotional problems that will arise when they realise that they are different.

And it wont benefit the able bodies children in the classroom who will have the distraction of the disabled child who will need extra support and could cause a distraction within the classroom setting.

Disabled children should expect to be provided with all the time and attention needed to help them learn and adapt to the best of their ability, they should be provided with the correct tools to meet this. A normal school in most cases will not help them achieve this.

Are you speaking from direct experience or are you just here trying to rack up your post ratings?

[alloverbartheshouting]

You're simply a tosser.

The L&H obviously served you well.

[Tombo]

Too many people wanting to do the PC thing for this debate to work.



It is plainly absurd to argue that the act of co-mingling children with very specific resource hungry needs with the general school population is not sufficient in itself. In fact on its own it is disruptive for all (all) and damaging for all unless it is properly resourced and organised.


If the resources are there the damage will show and people will notice. Labelling people "intolerant" for simply being realistic is pretty obnoxious.

[Talking Shop]

A critical element of having children with special needs or disability within the confines of a class is for the socialization of other "normal" children to that there is diversity in life. One of the great advantages of the Irish school system (for all its faults and there are many) is that children are educated within their community and their community is reflected in their class composition. Most children succeed as individuals on their own merit - irrespective of the academic quality of their peers.

[Mercurial]

Its unfair to place intellectually disabled children with normal children as everybody suffers.

The normal childrens progress is held back while teachers spend extra time with the slow learners.
The slow learners progress is held back because they realise everybody else is ahead of them and they would be better off with their peers.

...

Exactly the same argument could be used to separate "normal" children in the class from those who are exceptionally intelligent.

Yet nobody seems to be calling for that for some reason, even though it's clearly unfair (on the terms of this argument at least) on the brighter children.

[greengoose2]

A critical element of having children with special needs or disability within the confines of a class is for the socialization of other "normal" children to that there is diversity in life. One of the great advantages of the Irish school system (for all its faults and there are many) is that children are educated within their community and their community is reflected in their class composition. Most children succeed as individuals on their own merit - irrespective of the academic quality of their peers.

That's a well constructed and sensible post.

[alloverbartheshouting]

Too many people wanting to do the PC thing for this debate to work.



It is plainly absurd to argue that the act of co-mingling children with very specific resource hungry needs with the general school population is not sufficient in itself. In fact on its own it is disruptive for all (all) and damaging for all unless it is properly resourced and organised.


If the resources are there the damage will show and people will notice. Labelling people "intolerant" for simply being realistic is pretty obnoxious.

What are you basing your assertions on? Direct experience of dealing with a school? Working in a school? Because if you are making the above comments based on the OP alone you are seriously wide of the mark in everything you have posted in this thread.

[corporal punishment]

There but for the grace of God go I. I'm thankfull every day that me and mine are healthy and well. I feel nothing but sympathy for those who are less fortunate and anyone who makes their already difficult lives even a small bit more hard are just C***s.

[irish_bob]

Parents now 'less tolerant of disabled children in same class' - Mothers & Babies, Lifestyle - Independent.ie


These parents are setting an atrocious example to their own children. This prejudice was supposed to have been consigned to the dustbin of history. Have they no conscience?

kids with special needs should be taught in special schools , thats how it used to be , the pc liberals now run the show and everyone is apparently the same , not only are kids with autism etc a disturbance for other pupils , its highly inneficent employing special needs teachers for as few as one child in some cases , we cannot afford private tutors