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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    You mean truth based on scientific evidence as opposed to truth based on myth and fantasy?

    Well, yes, but it might be less offensive to say truth based on evidence or 'truth' based on belief. The question was could they both be taught as being true; they could. That doesn't make them both true. I suppose a similiar problem might arise in a school that taught evolution and free market economics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by statsman View Post
    Well, yes, but it might be less offensive to say truth based on evidence or 'truth' based on belief. The question was could they both be taught as being true; they could. That doesn't make them both true. I suppose a similiar problem might arise in a school that taught evolution and free market economics.

    Doubleplusgood idea there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by statsman View Post
    Well, yes, but it might be less offensive to say truth based on evidence or 'truth' based on belief. The question was could they both be taught as being true; they could. That doesn't make them both true. I suppose a similiar problem might arise in a school that taught evolution and free market economics.
    I’m not being offensive. I’m merely pointing out that you seem to be trying to redefine the meaning of the word “true”. Why should we teach something as being true for which there is not one shred of supporting evidence? Blind belief does not count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    I’m not being offensive. I’m merely pointing out that you seem to be trying to redefine the meaning of the word “true”. Why should we teach something as being true for which there is not one shred of supporting evidence? Blind belief does not count.
    Truth is a theory that is proven. That it is not proven does not make it false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    Blind belief does not count.
    According to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan2010 View Post
    I dont remember any religious element in Intercert Science?
    You're right, but because it's the "fad" in America you can be reasonably sure it's heading this way and must be prevented from ever getting a foothold here. The country is Fooked enough without that mindless brain washing taking hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Mercedes View Post
    Truth is a theory that is proven. That it is not proven does not make it false.
    Not in scientific terms it isn't. Science doesn't deal in proof.
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    There is one easy way out of this, take schools of of religious control, stop teaching religion in schools. Religion should be taught in Sunday school classes or after hours classes if parents want it taught, would not have a problem with using school classrooms for this purpose. In this day and age probably 1 classroom even in the largest schools would suffice as I can't see too many parents bothering to go to the hassle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cozzy121 View Post
    Great news for all sane people. Hopefully our own Dept of Education will also bar any creationist nonsense, infecting our classrooms.

    Richard Dawkins celebrates a victory over creationists | Education | The Observer
    By the waay this was a victory for the British Humanist Association who spearheaded the campaign. The victory is not Dawkins'.

    The fact that he is celebrating is the same manner in which a fan celebrates his team's victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Quirell View Post
    By the waay this was a victory for the British Humanist Association who spearheaded the campaign. The victory is not Dawkins'.

    The fact that he is celebrating is the same manner in which a fan celebrates his team's victory.
    This small victory is for all of humanity IMO.

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