The state education system is completely biased in favour of the EU

[Nugget]

There are 3 main ways the capitalist state gets people to consent to being exploited
1. Control of ideology
2. Ensuring the press is owned by right wing billionaires
3. Control of the Education system and syllabis which they then have the cheek to present as neutral

From an early age in school kids, are thought the European Union is the best thing since apple pie. In junior cert history we were told that europe was once a place of war and barbarism until and the EU was founded and everyone lived happily ever after. In civics we were told that the Commissioners and bankers of the EU are so kind that they give bags of money to Ireland every year with no strings attached.

In university I did a module on EU studies. We were told that the whole purpose of the Nice Treaty was to extend freedom and democracy to the poor backward people of eastern europe and only racists opposed it. No mention was made that the real reason for the Nice Treaty was to encourage labour migration and force down wages in the west to boost profits. Our europhile lecturer even said that France and Germany would be at war today if it wasn't for the EU.

The EU is never shown up for what it really is. A capitalist free trade bloc where the corporations are given ultimate freedom to exploit the factors of production while ordinary people are left powerless and clueless. While the right wingers and employers groups are consistent in their views by supporting the EU, the liberal left really need to cop on. The economic left have long seen the EU for what it really is but these trendy liberals in Labour and the Greens need a massive kick up the arse. Unfortunately they will only switch to an anti-EU position when it is far too late and all soverignty has been surrendered.

[ManUnited]

There are 3 main ways the capitalist state gets people to consent to being exploited
1. Control of ideology
2. Ensuring the press is owned by right wing billionaires
3. Control of the Education system and syllabis which they then have the cheek to present as neutral

From an early age in school kids, are thought the European Union is the best thing since apple pie. In junior cert history we were told that europe was once a place of war and barbarism until and the EU was founded and everyone lived happily ever after. In civics we were told that the Commissioners and bankers of the EU are so kind that they give bags of money to Ireland every year with no strings attached.

In university I did a module on EU studies. We were told that the whole purpose of the Nice Treaty was to extend freedom and democracy to the poor backward people of eastern europe and only racists opposed it. No mention was made that the real reason for the Nice Treaty was to encourage labour migration and force down wages in the west to boost profits. Our europhile lecturer even said that France and Germany would be at war today if it wasn't for the EU.

The EU is never shown up for what it really is. A capitalist free trade bloc where the corporations are given ultimate freedom to exploit the factors of production while ordinary people are left powerless and clueless. While the right wingers and employers groups are consistent in their views by supporting the EU, the liberal left really need to cop on. The economic left have long seen the EU for what it really is but these trendy liberals in Labour and the Greens need a massive kick up the arse. Unfortunately they will only switch to an anti-EU position when it is far too late and all soverignty has been surrendered.

What did your "europhile" lecturer say when you revealed this horrible truth?

[Nugget]

What did your "europhile" lecturer say when you revealed this horrible truth?

You're not allowed challenge college lecturers these days. You are just expected to sit quitely and take notes.

[ManUnited]

You're not allowed challenge college lecturers these days. You are just expected to sit quitely and take notes.

Surely you were required to do assignments and term papers ect.?

[locke]

I sat through years of school history that just assumed that the establishment of the state of Ireland was a good thing. It never even considered that there might have been arguments for retaining the Union.

Now, I'm not saying that retaining the Union would have been a good thing, but it does show that any state history course essentially aims at justifying the constitutional status quo.

[TommyO'Brien]

There are 3 main ways the capitalist state gets people to consent to being exploited
1. Control of ideology
2. Ensuring the press is owned by right wing billionaires
3. Control of the Education system and syllabis which they then have the cheek to present as neutral

From an early age in school kids, are thought the European Union is the best thing since apple pie. In junior cert history we were told that europe was once a place of war and barbarism until and the EU was founded and everyone lived happily ever after. In civics we were told that the Commissioners and bankers of the EU are so kind that they give bags of money to Ireland every year with no strings attached.

In university I did a module on EU studies. We were told that the whole purpose of the Nice Treaty was to extend freedom and democracy to the poor backward people of eastern europe and only racists opposed it. No mention was made that the real reason for the Nice Treaty was to encourage labour migration and force down wages in the west to boost profits. Our europhile lecturer even said that France and Germany would be at war today if it wasn't for the EU.

The EU is never shown up for what it really is. A capitalist free trade bloc where the corporations are given ultimate freedom to exploit the factors of production while ordinary people are left powerless and clueless. While the right wingers and employers groups are consistent in their views by supporting the EU, the liberal left really need to cop on. The economic left have long seen the EU for what it really is but these trendy liberals in Labour and the Greens need a massive kick up the arse. Unfortunately they will only switch to an anti-EU position when it is far too late and all soverignty has been surrendered.

Are you trying to win some prize for seeing how many stupid threads someone can create in one morning?

[Edo]

Am I alone in wondering who "Nugget" was in a previous life around here?

Since P.ie started taking in new members again - its amazing the number of "existing" usernames that have gone quiet - yet we have loads of "new members" who , totally co-incidentally Im sure , go on about the same stuff, have the same style of writing, have same addictions to the same buzzwords etc etc.

The more things change - the more things stay the same.

Pity - we could do with a bit of fresh blood and perspective around here - in fact anybody who's prepared to spend more than 10 minutes writing a thoughful reply would do me.

[SilverSpurs]

There are 3 main ways the capitalist state gets people to consent to being exploited
1. Control of ideology
2. Ensuring the press is owned by right wing billionaires
3. Control of the Education system and syllabis which they then have the cheek to present as neutral

From an early age in school kids, are thought the European Union is the best thing since apple pie. In junior cert history we were told that europe was once a place of war and barbarism until and the EU was founded and everyone lived happily ever after. In civics we were told that the Commissioners and bankers of the EU are so kind that they give bags of money to Ireland every year with no strings attached.

In university I did a module on EU studies. We were told that the whole purpose of the Nice Treaty was to extend freedom and democracy to the poor backward people of eastern europe and only racists opposed it. No mention was made that the real reason for the Nice Treaty was to encourage labour migration and force down wages in the west to boost profits. Our europhile lecturer even said that France and Germany would be at war today if it wasn't for the EU.

The EU is never shown up for what it really is. A capitalist free trade bloc where the corporations are given ultimate freedom to exploit the factors of production while ordinary people are left powerless and clueless. While the right wingers and employers groups are consistent in their views by supporting the EU, the liberal left really need to cop on. The economic left have long seen the EU for what it really is but these trendy liberals in Labour and the Greens need a massive kick up the arse. Unfortunately they will only switch to an anti-EU position when it is far too late and all soverignty has been surrendered.

EU propoganda is focussed on the elite universities as the levers of power will be pulled by these kids in 20-30 years. Control the political class and you control a country. You wont find any Monnet Professors in Blanch IT or Dundalk IT.

[ManUnited]

I sat through years of school history that just assumed that the establishment of the state of Ireland was a good thing. It never even considered that there might have been arguments for retaining the Union.

Now, I'm not saying that retaining the Union would have been a good thing, but it does show that any state history course essentially aims at justifying the constitutional status quo.

Ridiculous assertion.

[evercloserunion]

Am I alone in wondering who "Nugget" was in a previous life around here?

Big Bobo/Monkey Magic etc.