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    Hey at least I didn't call it BS... I was being sensitive and civil.

    If you wanted to prove I was wrong to dismiss it as unscientific you could have provided some scientific facts yourself, rather than launching a personal attack.

    You have your scientific study now, I await your response...

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    THere are many people who die from western drugs .
    Naturally if I was in an accident I would hope to be in a good modern hospital,but
    otherwise I will cure myself ,asI have done already while those who truted the doctors
    are dead.
    It is not an either or .
    It is simply that western ignorance of history and culture,allows people to live in a lttle
    bubble of dependence on doctors, politicians etc and give up their own and natures
    wisdom ,entirely.
    No, you are not calling down a hole ,that is your own imagination [paranoia],perhaps.
    I have considerable knowledge and reasoning powers.

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    I know nothing about Reiki ,and do not need to at the moment ,although I might find some page ,and make a start .
    Using unscientific in this dismissive manner is insulting.It ends all enquiry ,dismisses subtle
    knowledge ,and spiritual knowledge which does not lend itself so easily to what they call the 'scientific method'.
    The best 'scientific 'minds know this,like Einstein did.
    Only the hack minds dismiss out of hand, without at least some enquiry.
    These hack minds are found every where ,and calling oneself a scientist ,does not change that .
    Rational is another word that is popular among the little learned,to make people feel dismissed.

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    I think you probably were not intending to offend.
    So good luck with your studies.

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    The only scientific papers I have studied in relation to Asian languages and thinking, relate to counterfactual thinking. Many Asian peoples simply do not 'get it' when westerners speak in hypothetical terms, e.g. if I won the lotto I would do x, y, z. Or, if variable x has had no effect, then y would occur... the Chinese language in particular resists such thought processes. I wonder how they function or what is the substitute way of thinking about themselves and the world, in general? I.e. If I were Chinese, I would be thinking x!

    I was watching a military commander on Russia Today (on the dish) and he said that many of their military cadets are encouraged to read 'The Art of War', a philosophical Chinese text. Consider this:

    "Russian Federation armed forces derive their principles of war predominantly from those developed during the existence of the Soviet Union. These, although based significantly on the Second World War experience in conventional war fighting, have been substantially modified since the introduction of the nuclear arms into strategic considerations. The Soviet war in Afghanistan and the First and Second Chechen Wars further modified the principles that Soviet theorists had divided into the operational art and tactics. The very scientific approach to military science thinking in the Soviet union had been perceived as overly rigid at the tactical level, and had affected the training in the Russian Federation's much reduced forces to instil greater professionalism and initiative in the forces.
    The military principles of war of the People's Liberation Army were loosely based on those of the Soviet Union until the 1980s when a significant shift begun to be seen in a more regionally-aware, and geographically-specific strategic, operational and tactical thinking in all services. The PLA is currently influenced by three doctrinal schools which both conflict and complement each other: the People's war, the Regional war, and the Revolution in military affairs that led to substantial increase in the defence spending and rate of technological modernisation of the forces.
    The differences in the specifics of Military art notwithstanding, Military science strives to provide an integrated picture of the chaos of battle, and illuminate basic insights that apply to all combatants, not just those who agree with your formulation of the principles."

    (Military science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    I know that Irish cadets have to study logic -which is a core/foundational element within Anglo-american philosophy (versus Continental Philosophy). So really East and West continue to be culturally and intellectual miles apart.

    Noam Chomsky posits a Language Acquisition Device, a linguistic phenomenon common to all languages, and presumably indicative of a cultural common ground between all peoples of the world... but his theory is no longer in 'vogue'.

    Thank you for posting on an interesting, if difficult to appreciate topic --I know the 'pop science' Dawkins types reflexively swoop in to 'target' any topic that relates to religion, perhaps because symbolism and/or spirituality are not immediately accessible, and many (especially those who frequent the pop science section of easons) want a core of knowledge and understanding neatly packaged in one book --like it should be possible to go to some 'drive thru' type outlet to discover the meaning of life... but post even a few Chinese symbols, and the feelings of uncertainty quickly reemerge!
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    What has Sun Tzu got to do with complementary healing? I would not consider it a philosophical text, nor would I consider its teachings any more than generic or strategic axioms, ..... "If your enemy has less food than you, you will defeat him" IMO it is overrated and popularised in the '80s by business writers wanting a theme to make a quick buck from.
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    Can we please ban Darren the clown?

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    The five elemental forces are a strong feature of Shinto. Many traditional acupuncturists use the elements to identify different channels in the body.

    Each of the elements is associated with different human characteristics; for example Fire (9 o'clock on the diagram) is associated with the proactive, fast dynamic - whereas Earth is resistant to change, stoic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
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    It reminds me of dungeons and dragons, 'runes of power' in Diablo 2 which you get and stick on your gear to give you new powers.

    On a related matter, Traditional Medicines made from animals, the truth is that the traditional medicine cultures are ransacking the endangered species of the world because of a crude belief in the power of an animal to confer some property it is associated with (in the human mind) to the one who consumes it in some way. So the Rhino must suffer because it's horn reminds someone of a dick, the shark fins because the shark is a mighty animal and so on. I am all for indulging native beliefs but it is similiar to witchcraft and too costly in real terms.
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    So what you guys are really getting around to saying is ban everything not manufactured by some massive corporation and rubber stamped by various bureaucrats? How clever! How over-socialised you must be!
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