Special Needs Teachers

[toughbutfair]

Nice piece of evasion there.
Try addressing the issues. I may be a parent but I am also a logical human being with a bit of extra insight and knowledge of the subject.

Let's not pretend it is possible that I, or anyone else, could come up with something that would lead you to say " You are correct, my child shouldn't get the extra teaching".

Parents cannot disconnect from their children -evolution and all that.

[toughbutfair]

More nonsense, you clearly implied that resources should be concentrated on what you or someone else decides are our 'most talented and gifted' All citizens are entitled to receive whatever they need to help them develop to their fullest potential. The logic of your view is that should resources dictate, some citizens should be denied access to eduaction so as to preserve limited resources for the 'most talented and gifted' Once you go there, you become very dangerous.

Lets say, there are 3 teachers for a year with 90 children. Would you have a problem with the three classes being split into levels to minimise the difference in ability in any one class?

That is what I said in a previous post when you refered to me supporting Eugenics - a fair jump there Hoppi!

As for "concentrated" - you have also favoured concentrating resources on one group of children so isn't it hypocritical to complain that I would focus extra resources on a group?

[QuizMaster]

Let's not pretend it is possible that I, or anyone else, could come up with something that would lead you to say " You are correct, my child shouldn't get the extra teaching".

Parents cannot disconnect from their children -evolution and all that.

You should try to get in touch with your own inner adult.

Anyway that's my last word on the subject.
I don't normally like to get personal but I find you a petty-minded individual with a nasty streak of eugenicism.

[hopi watcher]

Lets say, there are 3 teachers for a year with 90 children. Would you have a problem with the three classes being split into levels to minimise the difference in ability in any one class?

That is what I said in a previous post when you refered to me supporting Eugenics - a fair jump there Hoppi!

As for "concentrated" - you have also favoured concentrating resources on one group of children so isn't it hypocritical to complain that I would focus extra resources on a group?

That is the system that obtains now. You are a dab hand at changing the subject and ducking and diving. People with special needs should get extra resources to help them to develop their skills and talents and not just to make money, but so that they have a greater experience of this life.

[toughbutfair]

You should try to get in touch with your own inner adult.

Anyway that's my last word on the subject.
I don't normally like to get personal but I find you a petty-minded individual with a nasty streak of eugenicism.

I'm used to personal insults on this site as it is the last resort by people who can't make an argument on the issues.

[toughbutfair]

That is the system that obtains now. You are a dab hand at changing the subject and ducking and diving. People with special needs should get extra resources to help them to develop their skills and talents and not just to make money, but so that they have a greater experience of this life.

(1) So we both agree that one group of children should get extra resouces?

(2) Do you think the cost should be taken into account i.e. either cut something else, or raise taxes to pay for it?

[willoughby]

Then why is any business in Ireland?

Seems to be tax breaks that kept most big business here. What I really meant is what is the point in advancing some and leaving others behind. Counter productive I would think.

[toughbutfair]

Seems to be tax breaks that kept most big business here. What I really meant is what is the point in advancing some and leaving others behind. Counter productive I would think.

There are finite resources, in a perfect world each child would have their own teacher so every single child would reach their maximum potential.

[willoughby]

There are finite resources, in a perfect world each child would have their own teacher so every single child would reach their maximum potential.

Many children are capable of reachinhing there maximum potential as part of a larger unit, Many arent. In an earlier comment it was suggested that SNA money would be better spent on our brightest than on those that struggle. This would seem to be grossly unfair. Surely all children deserve equal oppurtunies. It is not a childs fault if they struggle in school. Why leave them behind and progress others.

[hopi watcher]

(1) So we both agree that one group of children should get extra resouces?

(2) Do you think the cost should be taken into account i.e. either cut something else, or raise taxes to pay for it?

Children with learning difficulties require additional help so that they can reach their full potential. Sane, civilised people would never dream of denying them that so that resources can be lavished on what someone decides are 'most talented and gifted' so that money can be made. Your pre-occupation with money is almost sickening at this stage. Shallow doesn't do it any more as a description.