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    Labour Party economics-Old Labour,New Labour or "Permanent,Pensionable Labour"?

    The Labour Party likely will hold the balance of power in a coalition with Fine Gael after the next general election,hence the party's economic policies need to be compatible with FG's to a fair extent. Can a reasonable compromise between the two parties be worked out that will not sacrifice the private sector? Will Labour Party economic policies emulate those of the UK's Old Labour or Blair's New Labour, or will they be "Permanent,Pensionable Labour" policies pleasing to the public sector?

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    The Labour Party likely will hold the balance of power in a coalition with Fine Gael after the next general election,hence the party's economic policies need to be compatible with FG's to a fair extent. Can a reasonable compromise between the two parties be worked out that will not sacrifice the private sector? Will Labour Party economic policies emulate those of the UK's Old Labour or Blair's New Labour, or will they be "Permanent,Pensionable Labour" policies pleasing to the public sector?
    The Labour Party will go into coalition with FF in preference to FG after the next election.
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    I would agree. we will lose 20 seats as things stand & the leadership will change to Michael Martin. This will open the way for an FF/Lab coalition. Sorry Enda, close but no cigar. BTW, the Greens will lose all their seats. Tough given the unstinting and loyal support. I hope Taoiseach Martin will then use his T XI wisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    The Labour Party likely will hold the balance of power in a coalition with Fine Gael after the next general election,hence the party's economic policies need to be compatible with FG's to a fair extent. Can a reasonable compromise between the two parties be worked out that will not sacrifice the private sector? Will Labour Party economic policies emulate those of the UK's Old Labour or Blair's New Labour, or will they be "Permanent,Pensionable Labour" policies pleasing to the public sector?
    I really don't see why you are getting in such a fret over this one. The Labour Party don't give a sh1te about policy one way or another. Getting into power is the only thing important to them. My guess will be that economically they will be nothing more than the boot boys for Fine Gael while at the same time they will pursue some mushy liberal bullsh1t to appease their vunerable grassroots. Maybe Michael D will push some meaningless human rights legislation or Pat Rabitte will criticise China's handling of Tibet. Whether or not Labour are in governmentl or not will be irrelevent to Irish capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey-Magic View Post
    I really don't see why you are getting in such a fret over this one. The Labour Party don't give a sh1te about policy one way or another. Getting into power is the only thing important to them. My guess will be that economically they will be nothing more than the boot boys for Fine Gael while at the same time they will pursue some mushy liberal bullsh1t to appease their vunerable grassroots. Maybe Michael D will push some meaningless human rights legislation or Pat Rabitte will criticise China's handling of Tibet. Whether or not Labour are in governmentl or not will be irrelevent to Irish capitalism.
    The PDs as a minority party drove a lot of economic policies. Why wouldn't Labour do so if bargaining for a coalition government depended heavily on its support,enabling Labour to bargain hard for left of centre economic policies such as universal free health care and universal heavily subsidised day care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    The Labour Party will go into coalition with FF in preference to FG after the next election.
    It wouldn't surprise me to see FF going into coalition with Labour after the next election. Taoiseach Gilmore, Tánaiste Martin?
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    I worried about the stability of a FG/Lab coalition during the last election when it looked like they would pull it off. That worry has gotten worse since then.

    I can't see it working, certainly not with the likes of Hayes and Varadker about.

    I think if Gilmore is still in charge by the next GE they'll be in with FF like a rat up a drain pipe, they've been too long out in the cold and they will be the third victim of a FF coalition "government".
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me to see FF going into coalition with Labour after the next election. Taoiseach Gilmore, Tánaiste Martin?
    That's worse that Enda-Gilmore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    I can't see it working, certainly not with the likes of Hayes and Varadker about.
    Just because you dislike someone it doesn't mean they are not an effective politician. Prionsias DeRossa worked effectively with John Bruton and Michael D. did not go mad when he was a minister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    Just because you dislike someone it doesn't mean they are not an effective politician. Prionsias DeRossa worked effectively with John Bruton and Michael D. did not go mad when he was a minister.
    It's not on a basis of dislike, it's the fact that the politics (economics in particular) of anybody in the labour party will have nothing in common with the politics of FG's more right-wing rising stars.

    And from what I've seen of both of them the two boys are not ones for sitting on their hands and grinning though.
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