Irish Revolution

[LittleMsLeftist]

The worlds errors are rooted in a wrong ideological and political line. Stalinism, unlike Marxism-Leninism, supports an idealist (as opposed to materialist) view of revolution and the world. A communist alternative does not correctly analyze the events without reference to the USSR of the 1940s and !950s because they are not looking at the situation with an eye to what was possible and where could realistically have been done. Rather than concretely analyzing the objective and subjective conditions and the balance of forces to figure out what to do, the proto-rightists rely on unchanging formulas to respond to any situation that comes up, like in this case saying that no one should do any unpermitted protest activities until the majority of workers support that. But how will we ever build support among workers for a more militant movement if nobody ever starts to take more militant actions that will become a social question that is debated and struggled about? This applies in the day-to-day struggle right now. And it will be vital in making a revolution in the Ireland. Trying to substitute reality for the ruling classes “good ideas,” and if reality does not conform to their good ideas,

Who wants perfect revolutions, revolutions that are led by folks that happen to think like them, to fall from the sky. They think they can wait until that perfect moment to suddenly flip a magic switch and encourage their supporters to rebel when they have not built the capacity to do so over time in the mass struggle. No revolution has been built through that manner. It’s no surprise that no Trotskyist group has led a revolution anywhere on the planet in Trotskyism’s nearly 100 years of existence. Revolutions are built through struggle and in taking the movement forward step-by-step -- not just talking the talk for a long time and then suddenly jumping to the revolution.

The Trots way is the way of the spy and the traitor. Only a Stalinistic approach will work here !

[CookieMonster]

As Ronald Reagan once said... ah shut up!

[LittleMsLeftist]

As Ronald Reagan once said... ah shut up!

F off with your proto-facists mates in Libertas you failed fool

[markeys]

You lead the revolution. Depending on how you get on, who knows. Maybe the 'workers' will follow you. Go on now, no time to waste.

[Clanrickard]

The worlds errors are rooted in a wrong ideological and political line. Stalinism, unlike Marxism-Leninism, supports an idealist (as opposed to materialist) view of revolution and the world. ..................... ........... It’s no surprise that no Trotskyist group has led a revolution anywhere on the planet in Trotskyism’s nearly 100 years of existence. Revolutions are built through struggle and in taking the movement forward step-by-step -- not just talking the talk for a long time and then suddenly jumping to the revolution.

The Trots way is the way of the spy and the traitor. Only a Stalinistic approach will work here !

[CookieMonster]

F off with your proto-facists mates in Libertas you failed fool

I may have failed, but at least I didn't kill millions of people doing it.

[5intheface]

Nothing against revolutions but this is Ireland. Mind you, think of the cash would be pumped into the economy by the thousands of touts and agents that would appear out of the woodwork to avail of the bonanza. The one certain outcome of any revolution.

and before Merle posts it;

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ebftIo_qu4]YouTube - Fistful Of Dynamite revolution speechr[/ame]

[LittleMsLeftist]

I may have failed, but at least I didn't kill millions of people doing it.

did you not? I thought you had....silly me

[Sam Lord]

More pathetic trolling.

[MortgageBroker]

assume this is a spoof thread?