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    When are we going to start telling it like it is?

    Yesterday's figures from the CSO where absolutly shocking. The economy declined more in a quarter than it increased in a year during the boom times. Today the Live Register figures are being published and are likely to provide another set of frightening statisics. When are we (or more specifically the media) going to start telling it like it is and stop calling this "a recession". Right now we are in the worst period, economically, in over fifty years and there is no sign of a ecovery. This is no a recession, this is a depression.

    The economic definition of a depression is "a period during which business, employment, and stock-market values decline severely or remain at a very low level of activity". People need to have the severity of the current situation spelt out for them, in order to soften the blow of the necessary measures that the government needs to take. Over the past year we''ve had a stagging amount of time and government effort wasted on thing such things as increasing the classroom sizes to that which existed four years ago or stopping the taxpayer funding relativly well off pensioners, through medical cards. These things are trivial compared with what needs to be done. Tell it like it is. We're in the middle of a depression and some really tough measures are on the way.
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    If you were in FFs position would you tell the truth ?

    "Tough measures" as applied by FF will hit the middle and low income groups and offer escape hatches to the wealthy. Its not just a question of tough measures, its a question of what are our national priorities in a time of emergency and how can we get a Government that will deliver on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    If you were in FFs position would you tell the truth ?

    "Tough measures" as applied by FF will hit the middle and low income groups and offer escape hatches to the wealthy. Its not just a question of tough measures, its a question of what are our national priorities in a time of emergency and how can we get a Government that will deliver on them.
    I can see nothing short of a coup d'etat doing that.
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    I keep saying this but, not alone will this be the deepest recession in Irish history this will will be one of largest recessions in the last 100 years for any country around the world!

    The structural shift the economy is going through is completely unprecedented.

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    Ireland has very little to fall back on - no oil like Venezuela and no nuclear bombs.

    You'll love this youngdan, but one of the things we should do is look to see how Cuba survived the embargo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    Ireland has very little to fall back on - no oil like Venezuela and no nuclear bombs.

    You'll love this youngdan, but one of the things we should do is look to see how Cuba survived the embargo.

    Cuba has sunshine and peopple drive around in 60 year old American cadillacs as no one can afford new cards, hardly a role model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    Ireland has very little to fall back on - no oil like Venezuela and no nuclear bombs.
    We do have immense wind resources however.

    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    You'll love this youngdan, but one of the things we should do is look to see how Cuba survived the embargo.
    Sell medical care to rich tourists and export doctors while ignoring the needs of their own population?

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    If the opposition keeps attacking others of the opposition then we only have ourselves to blame. Vote anyone to kick FF out needs to be the mantra running up to the next GE.

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