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Thread: The GAMA Strike -A victory for all workers - New DVD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa
    Quote Originally Posted by doheochai
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOD
    Fair play. Although I'm sure this is shameless SP propaganda, every party needs some of that. It was great work.
    This issue was/is far to important for anyone to engage in 'shameless...propaganda'.

    Unlike other parties the SP does not threat/use issues it gets involved in for propaganda purposes (que the abuse!)

    I suggest you read the reviews, not written by SP members, here:

    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/77562
    Unlike other parties the SP does not threat/use issues it gets involved in for propaganda purposes

    Yeah right! :roll:
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    Not surprised you are the first one in!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doheochai
    Quote Originally Posted by DOD
    Fair play. Although I'm sure this is shameless SP propaganda, every party needs some of that. It was great work.
    This issue was/is far to important for anyone to engage in 'shameless...propaganda'.

    Unlike other parties the SP does not threat/use issues it gets involved in for propaganda purposes (que the abuse!)

    I suggest you read the reviews, not written by SP members, here:

    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/77562
    Hang on doh, I wasn't insulting ye. I actually said fair play. However, all these things have propaganda value. You mean to tell me the SP went to the trouble of getting a DVD done and get no propaganda value out of it? Pull the other one. Surely you don't believe that. Anyway, I'd buy it, no bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOD
    Quote Originally Posted by doheochai
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOD
    Fair play. Although I'm sure this is shameless SP propaganda, every party needs some of that. It was great work.
    This issue was/is far to important for anyone to engage in 'shameless...propaganda'.

    Unlike other parties the SP does not threat/use issues it gets involved in for propaganda purposes (que the abuse!)

    I suggest you read the reviews, not written by SP members, here:

    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/77562
    Hang on doh, I wasn't insulting ye. I actually said fair play. However, all these things have propaganda value. You mean to tell me the SP went to the trouble of getting a DVD done and get no propaganda value out of it? Pull the other one. Surely you don't believe that. Anyway, I'd buy it, no bother.
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    The DVD and pamphlet were issued for the the purpose of recording what was a outstanding victory not just for migrant workers but for all workers. The DVD will serve to show that by militant struggle workers can defeat the power of a multinational, the state, government and legal apparatus. It will also stand in opposition to those who argue that social partnership is the only path for workers and the trade union movement.

    As regards propaganda, the only propaganda that the DVD and pamphlet try to engage in, is the education of the working class as to the true class nature of society. In fact people who have seen it have commented to me on how little effort the SP made to propagandise (in terms of party propaganda) in the DVD. Maybe you have been in SF too long and are a little too cynical about peoples motives. Remember the SP is not an election orientated party. The objectives of the SP, the establishment of a socialist society, can only come about as a result of the development of a class consciousness by the working class. That is what the video is attempting to help develop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doheochai

    As regards propaganda, the only propaganda that the DVD and pamphlet try to engage in, is the education of the working class as to the true class nature of society. In fact people who have seen it have commented to me on how little effort the SP made to propagandise (in terms of party propaganda) in the DVD. Maybe you have been in SF too long and are a little too cynical about peoples motives. Remember the SP is not an election orientated party. The objectives of the SP, the establishment of a socialist society, can only come about as a result of the development of a class consciousness by the working class. That is what the video is attempting to help develop.
    That's still propaganda though. It's propaganda I agree with but that's not the point. Propaganda isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOD

    That's still propaganda though. It's propaganda I agree with but that's not the point. Propaganda isn't necessarily a bad thing.
    Yes, but you initially said 'I am sure this is shameless SP propaganda' which it most definitely is not.

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