IMF Report on Ireland

[Jock_the_Waster]

the paycuts are a comin'

back to reality where the safety of a CS/PS job means that you get paid 25% less than a similar private sector job

[Cato]

the paycuts are a comin'

back to reality where the safety of a CS/PS job means that you get paid 25% less than a similar private sector job

Do you have a link or are you just guessing?

On what basis do you value job security at 25% of the equivalent private sector job?

[DCon]

Have a read of this and it might help you understand why
Public Sector pay in Ireland & the ?50,000 question: It’s not that difficult! | Ronan Lyons

First, a general comment about public sector pay cuts. This can’t possibly be that much of a surprise to anyone in the public sector. After all, this is what they signed up to in 2001, with benchmarking. Benchmarking may have been an incredibly expensive way to do it - costing the economy €1bn+ every year and counting - but it did establish a principle in public sector wages in Ireland. That principle is that trends in public sector wages must mirror those in the private sector. It’s incredibly cheeky of those happy to have the principle applied in the good times to argue that they shouldn’t have to ‘bear the brunt’ of having the same principle applied in the bad times.

[Kevin Doyle]

Have a read of this and it might help you understand why
Public Sector pay in Ireland & the ?50,000 question: It’s not that difficult! | Ronan Lyons

Once again these flawed averages raise their head.

Comparing the average of public sector pay which includes all the highest earners right up the Taoiseach to the AIW which is an average that includes everyone on the minimum and none of the middle to high earners within the private sector is as disingenuous as it gets.

Mr. Lyons strangely omits these simple facts when arriving at this spun out populist conclusions.

It appears they don’t seem to bother you either.

Benchmarking is no longer an issue, it has been effectively reversed.

[sarahj]

Have a read of this and it might help you understand why
Public Sector pay in Ireland & the ?50,000 question: It’s not that difficult! | Ronan Lyons

Those are the same figures which were refuted earlier by Kevin and I.

[Kevin Doyle]

the paycuts are a comin'

back to reality where the safety of a CS/PS job means that you get paid 25% less than a similar private sector job

Ah Deathknell, good to have you back.

[Kevin Doyle]

Do you have a link or are you just guessing?

On what basis do you value job security at 25% of the equivalent private sector job?

And what job security is he talking about? According to him redundancies and job losses in the PS/CS are on the way.

[sarahj]

Ah Deathknell, good to have you back.

Oh I hope it IS Deathknell or we'll have (at least) two of them with a vendetta against the PS running around...

[Kevin Doyle]

Oh I hope it IS Deathknell or we'll have (at least) two of them with a vendetta against the PS running around...

There's a few more than two with multiple accounts just for good measure.

[Clanrickard]

Once again these flawed averages raise their head.

Comparing the average of public sector pay which includes all the highest earners right up the Taoiseach to the AIW which is an average that includes everyone on the minimum and none of the middle to high earners within the private sector is as disingenuous as it gets.

Mr. Lyons strangely omits these simple facts when arriving at this spun out populist conclusions.

It appears they don’t seem to bother you either.

Benchmarking is no longer an issue, it has been effectively reversed.

Kevin, public pay is an issue when we can't afford to pay it.