IMF Report on Ireland

[Cato]

Even if you did want to move from complete reliance on FDI, it would take a full generation to do so and thats assuming a country with no real domestic market worth talking about can create products and services that the rest of the world want

[BodyofEvidence]

Nationalise the industries and create cooperative worker run industries which WILL stay in the country. If a company want to leave, let them. The workers still have all the necessary skills to run that industry and will stay regardless of the CT level, as long as their wages are covered.

Boll ix. Cuba has sunshine and we dont. So they are better off than we would be with this nonsensical tosh.

[toughbutfair]

Nationalise the industries and create cooperative worker run industries which WILL stay in the country. If a company want to leave, let them. The workers still have all the necessary skills to run that industry and will stay regardless of the CT level, as long as their wages are covered.

I've already told you that the workforce do NOT own the patent rights and Ireland cannot override world law on this unless we withdraw from the global economic system like North Korea.

Is this what you want? Ireland to be like North Korea? otherwise how would you get around the global rules regarding intellectual property?

[libertarian-right]

IMF "FF have made a complete mess regarding fiscal spending / property bubble / watchdog over banking sector etc."

IMF "FF now need to make deep cuts, will not be able to borrow for much longer."

FF "Great report, NAMA will proceed as planned."

[DCon]

Nationalise the industries and create cooperative worker run industries which WILL stay in the country. If a company want to leave, let them. The workers still have all the necessary skills to run that industry and will stay regardless of the CT level, as long as their wages are covered.

Nationalise the foreign owned operations?? Are you nuts?

So you think the Dell factory in Limerick should manufacture computers for the government? What will you call this new company? Who will they sell to? Who will they buy parts from? Who will run the company?

The (ex) Dell workers have the skills to manufacture computers, not the skills to run a computer company or make the parts that go into the computer.

[BodyofEvidence]

That's all you have to say? An ad hominem attack? Perhaps you'd be better off addressing my arguments?

You are wrong. The "rest of the world" don't have any opinion one way or another, though plenty of people worldwide would support us in fighting against these attacks on working people and the unemployed.

The IMF is not "the rest of the world". It is a credit control agency that has been responsible for the impoverishment and death of many people worldwide.

Listen love....you didnt bother to answer my question earlier about what exact parts of hte IMF analysis you disagreed with. You responde with nonsensical sub undergraduate neo-trot drool. Continue to live in fairyland if you wish. If you want to be taken seriously, tell me if you can what parts of the analysis you disagree with (paper and point if you would). If you cant do that, then we have to assume you cant actually do any analysis other than run the "woooorrrkers unite" tosh.

[Kevin Doyle]

Listen love.....

Should she just stay indoors cooking and cleaning and not bother her pretty little head about mens stuff?

Patronising twat.

[theoutsider]

Nationalise the industries and create cooperative worker run industries which WILL stay in the country. If a company want to leave, let them. The workers still have all the necessary skills to run that industry and will stay regardless of the CT level, as long as their wages are covered.

And which companies would stay in the country - every multinational would be gone.

A few questions....
1. where would we get the raw materials for those worker co-operative companies?
2. what do yuo think would happen our status in the EU
3. what sort of countries would stop doing business with us as we have nationalisedtheir companies
4. Why do you assume wages will be covered and does everybody get the same wage?

[Kevin Doyle]

(2) We need to cut the public sector bill - probably a combination of pay cuts and redundancies.

Em, the PS pay bill has already been cut by 10% across the board and that doesnt include the ban on OT and the serious curtailment of Per diem and Expenses, I'd conservatively estimate that as another 2-3%

Thats 12-13% so far, the next budget will propose pay cuts in the region of 5 - 15% salary dependant and an increase of 2% in the pensions levy.

Significant numbers of FTC are being let go and a significant number of established PS workers are retiring, taking early redundnancy and early retirement without being replaced, this all adds to a lessoning of the PS wage bill.

All in all Most PS workers will be between 17-28% (OT and expenses excluded) lesser off next year than they where in mid 2008, thats a big hunk of change by anyones standards

[BodyofEvidence]

Should she just stay indoors cooking and cleaning and not bother her pretty little head about mens stuff?

Patronising twat.

Yes, its patronising. But delivered to someone who is spouting patronising nonsense, sauce-goose-gander......