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    Financial Regulator & The Consumer Panel

    The Consultative Consumer Panel of the Financial Regulator is a watchdog body; more on it here:

    Introduction

    In May, the panel of the Financial Regulator issued a report condemning the Financial Regulator for not attempting to control the property bubble:

    Regulator 'added to slump' by failing to curb property bubble - The Irish Times - Tue, May 26, 2009

    THE DOWNTURN in Ireland was magnified by the Financial Regulator’s failure to control the property market bubble, according to a damning new report.

    The Financial Services Consultative Consumer Panel, which is tasked with monitoring the performance of the Financial Regulator, said in a report issued yesterday that most consumers have lost “significant amounts of money” due to the inadequacies of the financial regulatory structure. It also criticised the “deficient” response of the regulator to threats to consumers, including the domestic property bubble.

    However, this strikes me as being too little, too late. Does anyone know if the Consumer Panel issues such warnings before and at the height of the bubble itself?

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    I don't know, but I suspect not.
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    The minutes of their meetings are available from the Financial Regulator's website. The answer is "no".
    Nothing will motivate the lazy / apathetic / Americanised / west-British types to embrace their culture and the Irish language.

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    I've only had a chance to go through the minutes for the 12 months prior to the peak of the property bubble (February 2007):

    February 2007:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf - no mention of property/mortgages

    January 2007:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf - no mention of property/mortgages

    December 2006:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf - notno mention of property/mortgages

    November 2006:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf - no mention of property/mortgages


    October 2006:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf - no mention of property/mortgages

    September 2006:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf - no mention of property/mortgages

    July 2006:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf - no mention of property/mortgages
    June 2006:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf - no mention of property/mortgages

    May 2006:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf - no mention of property/mortgages
    April 2006:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf - mention of lending practises of the Irish Nationwide Society

    The Chair [Brendan Burgess] spoke to his previously circulated briefing note on the lending
    practices of the Irish Nationwide Building Society. After a short discussion,
    and as the Chair has a long-standing personal position on the issue, he stepped
    down for this item and temporarily left the meeting, and Professor Mulcahy
    was nominated as interim Chairman. It was agreed that the Secretary would
    seek advice for the Panel of the statutory position under their mandate in
    respect of complaints about specific institutions, and revert later.
    March 2006:

    http://www.financialregulator.ie/con...%20Minutes.pdf

    Again, mention of Irish Nationwide:

    The second item was raised by the Chair, and concerns Irish Nationwide
    Building Society. The Chair reported that he had met the Financial Regulator
    in a personal capacity to voice concerns he has relating to the lending practices
    of this company. It was decided that the Chair in his personal capacity would
    produce a briefing memo to enable the Panel decide whether to engage with
    the Financial Regulator on the issue.
    ====

    So, apart from the chair's concerns about Irish Nationwide, which have been documented elsewhere (https://www.tribune.ie/archive/artic...ationwide-boa/), the Consumer Panel does not mention the lending practises of any other financial bodies. I find this strange.

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    Brendan Burgess, have I heard that name before in relation to a website?
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    Quote Originally Posted by feargach View Post
    Brendan Burgess, have I heard that name before in relation to a website?
    Perhaps the panel were forbidden from discussing property values.
    Nothing will motivate the lazy / apathetic / Americanised / west-British types to embrace their culture and the Irish language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feargach View Post
    Brendan Burgess, have I heard that name before in relation to a website?
    He's the founder of Ask About Money (http://www.askaboutmoney.com).

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