Civil Servants T&C's under attack again...

[Conor]

It's not in mine and I'm not entitled to it either...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you required to work an average of 34.75hrs per week? (or 9-5 Monday to Friday with an hour for lunch and half an hour off once a fortnight?)
If so, then the so-called "bank time" is part of your contract. Similarly, the two 'privilege days' are part of your annual leave allowance. Any move to deny these conditions would amount to a unilateral breach of contract on the part of your employer, and you would be completely within your rights to take action to remedy this breach.

A lot of posters seem to be of the impression that employers are entitled to cut their employee's pay and/or leave allowances however they see fit. They aren't. And the original rationale for introducing particular conditions are largely irrelevant once they've been introduced. "Bank time" was never contingent on staff marching off to the bank to cash their wage cheques, and 'privilege days' have nothing to do with going down the country on a bank holiday weekend. They're in place simply because they were put in place. They now form part of the contract of employment. That contract cannot be altered without the agreement of both parties.

[Silvio Dante]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you required to work an average of 34.75hrs per week? (or 9-5 Monday to Friday with an hour for lunch and half an hour off once a fortnight?)
If so, then the so-called "bank time" is part of your contract. Similarly, the two 'privilege days' are part of your annual leave allowance. Any move to deny these conditions would amount to a unilateral breach of contract on the part of your employer, and you would be completely within your rights to take action to remedy this breach.

A lot of posters seem to be of the impression that employers are entitled to cut their employee's pay and/or leave allowances however they see fit. They aren't. And the original rationale for introducing particular conditions are largely irrelevant once they've been introduced. "Bank time" was never contingent on staff marching off to the bank to cash their wage cheques, and 'privilege days' have nothing to do with going down the country on a bank holiday weekend. They're in place simply because they were put in place. They now form part of the contract of employment. That contract cannot be altered without the agreement of both parties.

Thats it pretty much in a nutshell...

[The Lighthouse Keeper]

I don't work in the CS but would suggest the following:

• Bank Time: Abolish immediately as is total anchonism with people paid into their bank accounts and availability of on-line banking.
• Privilege Days: Pretty useless anyway as a lot offices still have to be staffed on those days - would be better to add them to the existing annual leave allowances.

Conceding Bank Time for flexible use of the leave that the Privilege Days provided would be a better position for CPSU to adopt.

[Conor]

Privilege Days: Pretty useless anyway as a lot offices still have to be staffed on those days - would be better to add them to the existing annual leave allowances.

It's less disruptive to have everyone out all at once than to have people taking days off here and there during the year.

[DCon]

It's less disruptive to have everyone out all at once than to have people taking days off here and there during the year.

Amazing that the whole world can work when people in employment take days off here and there during the year.

[ACHABB]

A simple transfer of the 2 Priv days into our Annual Leave Allowance and the job is oxo...

And what's in this for the taxpayer?

[Conor]

And what's in this for the taxpayer?

They get FÁS offices open the day after St Stephen's day and the day after Easter Monday.

[Silvio Dante]

And what's in this for the taxpayer?

It's cost neutral and you're guranteed the excellent value for money we provide...

[Dreaded_Estate]

It's cost neutral and you're guranteed the excellent value for money we provide...

How is it cost neutral?

[ivicia]

And what's in this for the taxpayer?

Nothing more but nothing less either.

I'm a HSE PS and get 3 priv days. Staff in Galway get 5 as they get races as well. Donegal people get something for the Rose of Dunloe, Ballinalsoe get a half day for the fair so they get 5 and 1/2 becasue they get the race days as well.

These priv days are not in my contract but I suppose it can be agrued that they form part of T and C as I've had them for the last 20 years.

I don't get bank time - never did and when I was paid by cheque I use to get extra time to cash my cheque but had to work it back.

In my opionion it would be simpler to add them to the leave for existing workers on a personal to holder basis. Not fair but the only workable solution in my opinion.

Personally I don't mind giving them up but I get 31 AL days a year so its easy to say that.