In Todays Irish Independent:
"OUR generous social welfare system is encouraging more people to stay on the dole, a major new report warns."
I wonder how many people recently laid off would agree.
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I doubt many would. However, there is a danger that people will opt to stay on the dole as wages and the quality of jobs on offer collapse.Originally Posted by CanadianCelt
Its kinda true CanadianCelt , but its not good to generalize . Its too generous for some , for sure . Some means testing is needed . Having said that , there are some people living in total squalor and in my opinion , the dole is a bribe in a way, to keep ghettoes from exploding . We do have good 'dole' but we have a crappy unequal society also, ie health,housing,education , etc .
Last edited by stewiegriffin; 30th April 2009 at 07:32 AM.
well it is a lot higher than in most other countries and some people earn more on the dole than they would on minimum wage so it would act as disincentive to work.
But I think a lot of those who look at it that way would haave on the dole before the recession.
How the hell do you arrive at that conclusion?
€204.33 PW = €10625.16 PA, hardly the minimum wage level!
I would love to see those who wrote the report try and live on €204.33 PW!!
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The dole is too high for people who have never worked and never wanted to work. Getting EUR 5 an hour for doing nothing is a disincentive to get a job paying minimum wage, especially if those on welfare might lose extra freebies if they get a minimum wage job.
However, EUR 200 a week is not enough for people who recently lost jobs.
But, the government are broke through years of mis-management courtesy of Bert and McCreevy.
It's common sense that the dole has to reduce, as does the minimum wage and every other wage/cost all the way to the top.
Do you have to be working 40 hours a week on minimum wage before you lose your welfare entitlement?
And I suppose you would arbitrate on that would you ?
What a very practical idea ! You could interview everyone on the dole and then make your decision eh?
If you have dependant children, you recieve more and some people get extra because of sickness.
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