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About LinkBacksIn the sense that no so-called 'civilised' society can stand aside and allow any human being to starve, just because they weren't born here?!Originally Posted by JCSkinner
In the sense that no so-called 'civilised' society can stand aside and allow any human being to starve, just because they weren't born here?!
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"To be is to do"-Socrates; "To do is to be"-Sartre; "Do Be Do Be Do"-Sinatra
Between half a million facing the dole queues and people lining up for food parcels, I just don't know where to start. It's really despairing seeing what's happening to this country.
Can we set our differences aside and come together to help the poor, even if it's only a small gesture of dropping a few anonymous cent into a torn coffee cup?
Us Irish people have a great reputation for looking out for each other, no matter what. I really hope we haven't lost this spirit and can help each other out of these difficult times.
How are the Irish people preventing them from eating?
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I don't think it makes any difference whose unfortunate they are at this stage. One thing for cetain is that they are our problem in terms of how this plays internationally if it gets picked up and we can be fairly certain that the English papers will paint as ugly a picture as possible both to sell newspapers and get a little back at us for having the audacity of getting above ourselves in the last decade.
As for the unfortunate themselves it makes for an interesting story as to why they have had to beg for handouts. Are they recent arrivals possibly or have fallen on hard times due to drink drugs debts etc?
Nice sentiment, but I think we can do better than a few cents in a torn coffee cup. I know I was half-joking earlier, but there is no reason (well, very few) why people cant re-learn how to produce a sizeable amount of their own food, specially if they have free time on their hands. A packet of seeds only costs a few cents from the bottom of a torn coffee cup!
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the spectacle of poverty is obviously getting right up people's noses, interesting that.
No-one said they were - scroll back.
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If you accept that the Irish people are not making anyone starve, then there is no reason for people to be begging for food on Irish streets.
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Time to get tough on this issue, i read in a newspaper recently that a lot of the immigrant homeless did not want to go home as there wanted to wait it out a few months until they could claim social welfare by being here 2 years, this claim was made by a person working with the homeless themselves, this makes perfect sense as most people when in hard time and homeless in a foreign country would want to return home, the goverment will even pay for there flights home under a scheme which a lot of brazillians in gort have availed of when they found themselves unemployed. Its just crazy the goverment needs to get tough on this issue we can no longer afford to provide social welfare to non nationals indefinaltely, there should be a limit of six months on social welfare for non nationals, this is plently of time for them to either find a new job or get enough money to return home, we already have 70,000 non nationals on social welfare and if the curent rate of unemployment continues we could well have over 150,000 non nationals on social welfare by this time next year, now we can not afford this so the goverment will need to come up with new policys.
The whole thing stinks. 500 queue for food. 500000 queue for dole. 4000000000 budget tomorrow. Banks get bailed out, bonuses and refuse to change fixed term mortgages for people scrimping to get by.
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