Social welfare cuts good, property taxes bad, public sector evil?

[feargach]

Does this sum up the majority opinion of P.ie posters?

Isn´t it odd that certain posters expound against the supposedly cushioned, coddled public sector, yet in the same breath demand cuts in social welfare?

Attacking people who are supposedly unsackable, yet demanding cuts in your own safety net.

Are these unusually principled people, who are at risk of job loss but nonetheless demand that their own safety net be unravelled out of sheer, self-sacrificing patriotism?

Or do you subscribe to my more cynical reading: that these people are landlords whose income is based on the property bubble, and who don´t expect to ever need the dole, because they currently have tenants by the short & curlies. Maybe! I´m probably not being fair here.

Give me your thoughts/speculations of the circumstances of people who hold this interesting set of opinions.

Don´t be rude, though. Life´s too short, in my view.

[wexfordman]

Well here's antoher one to throw in the pot, private sector emplyees calling for headcuts inthe PS ? Surely the private sector would want to keep more people out of the job market, if your argument of self preservation stands ?

[feargach]

Well here's antoher one to throw in the pot, private sector emplyees calling for headcuts inthe PS ? Surely the private sector would want to keep more people out of the job market, if your argument of self preservation stands ?

I´m not sure what you mean. Can you explain?

[wexfordman]

Probably not

[wexfordman]

Okay, What I was trying to say was to throw another "theory" in the mix.
Why would private sector employees be looking for cuts in PS, when this may have a negative impact on them, by increasing the pool of unemplyed looking for work, and increasing competition for private sector jobs.

Think what I am trying to say, is no, I dont agree with you

If this does not make sense, its likely I have completely mis interpreted your post!!

[voodoochile]

I hardly think the majority of posters here think the public sector is evil, but they like the vast majority of private sector workers are utterly disillusioned with public servants.

[myksav]

Social welfare cuts good, property taxes bad, public sector evil?

Does this sum up the majority opinion of P.ie posters?
Isn´t it odd that certain posters expound against the supposedly cushioned, coddled public sector, yet in the same breath demand cuts in social welfare?

Attacking people who are supposedly unsackable, yet demanding cuts in your own safety net.

Are these unusually principled people, who are at risk of job loss but nonetheless demand that their own safety net be unravelled out of sheer, self-sacrificing patriotism?

Or do you subscribe to my more cynical reading: that these people are landlords whose income is based on the property bubble, and who don´t expect to ever need the dole, because they currently have tenants by the short & curlies. Maybe! I´m probably not being fair here.

Give me your thoughts/speculations of the circumstances of people who hold this interesting set of opinions.

Don´t be rude, though. Life´s too short, in my view.

'Probably doubtful' is my thought on your question.

TBH, I'm not that interested in the circumstances of who "hold this interesting set of opinions".
My three thoughts on the title would be:
Social welfare cuts; bad. Property tax; depends*. Public Sector; being a bit unrealistic.

*Property tax is a can of worms idea. It would depend on how property was taxed. Not on a primary residence, including rental. Yes to 'holiday' homes, secondary residences, if the property owners income is taken into account in a threshold system.

[SPN]

I hardly think the majority of posters here think the public sector is evil, but they like the vast majority of private sector workers are utterly disillusioned with public servants.

That's just spin put out by the PS to try and deflect attention.

The private sector generate the wealth that generates the taxes that pays for the PS.

The private sector is having difficulty, but the PS is not stepping forward to help take some of the pressure off.

It makes more sense to reduce the cost of the PS across the board than it does to sack people. Lets live within our means - all of us.


And property taxes are a dumb idea: People paid their taxes when they bought their properties - and paid the taxes with borrowed money.

Now, when they are at the pin of their collar to pay off their borrowings is not the time to hit them with another indiscriminate tax that is not based on an individuals ability to pay.

[voodoochile]

That's just spin put out by the PS to try and deflect attention.

I don't follow how my post could be construed as PS spin. I was trying to make the point that private sector workers such as myself don't feel that public servants are in anyway plugged into the reality of our current situation and feel quite annoyed at this.