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Thread: Social welfare at risk?

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    Its the welfare state and what we are seeing now is how it is starting to unravel.Ireland maybe the first but others in Europe will follow,its to expensive to keep.
    Quote Originally Posted by stewiegriffin View Post
    well i cant argue against that . Social welfare like many areas of government is just not functioning correctly . Its a gravy train ,and im not talking about the people signing at the hatches .Im more talking about the numerous quangoes associated with unemployment ,ie FAS , various 'community centres' jobs for the boys,that kinda thing .
    A champion of the people emerges with the age-old and appealing promise of "something for nothing" - to be financed through every-increasing taxes. Supply and demand are thrown out of gear - the overhead goes up; the effective use of human energy goes down; the standard of living is lowered because money cannot buy wealth that is not produced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlantic View Post
    Its the welfare state and what we are seeing now is how it is starting to unravel.Ireland maybe the first but others in Europe will follow,its to expensive to keep.
    Well we'll wait and see . Ive heard that scandanavian and central european countries are run much better than this one . Economically and socially . Is that correct?Moronically simplistic it may sound but i think its a valid question.I am just wonderin if we are chumps ? We live in a rainy , conservative , corrupt sh1thole if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner View Post
    The dole here is four times the Northern equivalent. I know some genuinely needy people will be hurt, but that gap has to be closed.
    What about reducing the dole and storing the surplus in an investment account, which could perhaps be refunded to certain welfare recipients on completion of online or vocational courses or something like that? When you can walk into an exam hall and sit the exam successfully, or otherwise get your qualification you get the €100 a week it was reduced by for the last six months, or around €2500. Also a handy way to help people save a bit of money for the rainy day or help themselves get jobs. It would be quite the incentive to gain useful skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anewbeginning View Post
    Just watching Vincent Browne now.. He keeps mentioning that the social welfare fund is about to collapse...does anyone know any more?

    I'm not on social welfare myself, but I am just wondering what are the implications for the country? Will that mean even more borrowing?

    It just gets worse and worse.

    These fears were voiced by several people eight or ten years ago, but no one listened. Then everyone got lost in property porn, and it was forgotten about. All this has been building for years, but no one prepared for it, what was that Roy Keane said ?....

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    We have corporate gombeen capitalism in government,that then do the vote buying jig through a socialist welfare state structure.
    Quote Originally Posted by stewiegriffin View Post
    Well we'll wait and see . Ive heard that scandanavian and central european countries are run much better than this one . Economically and socially . Is that correct?Moronically simplistic it may sound but i think its a valid question.I am just wonderin if we are chumps ? We live in a rainy , conservative , corrupt sh1thole if you ask me.
    A champion of the people emerges with the age-old and appealing promise of "something for nothing" - to be financed through every-increasing taxes. Supply and demand are thrown out of gear - the overhead goes up; the effective use of human energy goes down; the standard of living is lowered because money cannot buy wealth that is not produced.

    WEAVER, HENRY GRADY,

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewiegriffin View Post
    Well we'll wait and see . Ive heard that scandanavian and central european countries are run much better than this one . Economically and socially . Is that correct?Moronically simplistic it may sound but i think its a valid question.I am just wonderin if we are chumps ? We live in a rainy , conservative , corrupt sh1thole if you ask me.

    The Scando's setup sovereign wealth funds, and held onto their natural resources.

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    I presume those talking about cutting/reducing the Social Welfare are actually talking about the "dole" and childrens allowance rather than all welfare including the OAP, Disability Allowance/Pension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    The Scando's setup sovereign wealth funds, and held onto their natural resources.
    And much higher income tax rates.
    The enemy of my enemy is the enemy of my enemy. There are lies, damn lies and Fine Gael confusions. "I don't understand." Alan "it's only 79 punts" Shatter

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    Quote Originally Posted by myksav View Post
    And much higher income tax rates.
    Which is where we need to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myksav View Post
    I presume those talking about cutting/reducing the Social Welfare are actually talking about the "dole" and childrens allowance rather than all welfare including the OAP, Disability Allowance/Pension.
    Everything is up for grabs. I suspect a small cut to basic payments, maybe 5%, but additional benefits will be savaged like the free schemes.

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