Are we reverting to Socialism again?

[Munion]

When one analyses ones true motivation for involvement in/and opinions on politics............ there are only 2 positions

1
Those who believe Politics Is a tool to improve their personal situation or their socio economic grouping in relation to the rest of society.
Generally= Right of Centre to Far right -

2
Those Who believe that politics should be used for the betterment of all of society equally, and believe in equal opportunity
Generally= Left of centre to far left.

The individual profile of how much money a person has has very little to do with it If a person falls into category two.

Left wing & right wing are sooooo last millenium terms.

They are restrictive and very weak indicators of a persons real intentions or ideas.

[Colada]

And whats your FF alternative?
Plain Vanilla 'Pro and Anti Treatyist' Politics?
Get off the stage.
Literally.

[Big Bobo]

The future, then, is socialism, or so it would seem: not the woolly socialism of David Begg and his beloved Scandinavian model, but the unreconstructed socialism of Jack O'Connor and his cabal. Do not say you have not been warned.

Even the indo has outdone itself on this one. It is very worrying that this filthy tabloid rag is considered a legitimate newpaper by many.

[loaded32]

Not sure about Socialism, but De-regulation is dead, and Globalisation is teetering on the brink (listen to Sarko and Obama). De-regulation has been proven to be a failure not just in Banking, but in numerous other sectors. It simply promotes greed and irresponsibility, it rapes the earths resources and environment and it impoverishes the weak. Globalisation is its bast@rd child.

When the scions of Irish Business cannot regulate themselves, what hope for the rest of the pack?

Goodbye to all that. And good riddance.

Here here.

All the most learned commentators have all stated how this is the worst financial crisis in the history of our state. So however bad things were in the slightly left of centre regime of the 70's, they certainly havent put us into the potential Armageddon state that we are in now, due to de-regulation and extreme capitalism! If the 440bn is ever called in on our "state" guarantee, I would like to perhaps here the reviewed comments of the instigator of this thread then!

[Munion]

And whats your FF alternative?
Plain Vanilla 'Pro and Anti Treatyist' Politics?
Get off the stage.
Literally.

Personally i'm a liberal republican.

I appreciate that FF is a broad church and would find it hard to agree on as highly specific an agenda as parties like the BNP or SP.

I am heartened though by our joining the ALDE in Europe.

[Big Bobo]

Personally i'm a liberal republican.

I appreciate that FF is a broad church and would find it hard to agree on as highly specific an agenda as parties like the BNP or SP.

I am heartened though by our joining the ALDE in Europe.

So what does FF stand for then? (assuming it has at least a few core beliefs)

[Darren Mac an Phríora]

FF like SF stands for "Ourselves Alone". FF members can generally be expected not to kneecap you though.

[Munion]

So what does FF stand for then? (assuming it has at least a few core beliefs)

Election....


Mainstream, moderation, pragmatism. That kinda stuff.

[Dios]

FF like SF stands for "Ourselves Alone". FF members can generally be expected not to kneecap you though.

The literal translation is "soldiers of destiny".

[Big Bobo]

Election....


Mainstream, moderation, pragmatism. That kinda stuff.

Really?!!!!

I thought they stood for corruption, fraud, cronyism, banks, builders and the rich?